Ha Ha Ha

Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Apr 7, 2008 at 19:06

1. Spanish Model: During the period of inquisition islam was kicked out albeit violently - by catholic Christianists in 15th Century – muslims were told to convert or get out. Most muslims chose to convert to Catholicism and remain in Spain, while a few opted out of Spain.

Actaully majority of European Scholars that I have read on this subject agree that Muslims were forced to convert. Now look at what you are saying. So to force people. And you are what? The paragon of justice peace and humainty and all that? Really - Could have knocked me over.

Did it actually occur to you that you are thinking along the same lines as the Islamists (a strange and puzzling term). They to have .

So in one little post you handsomely smear the Enlightenment that actually West stood for. Here hang on a minute I have actually got a little Wisdom for you that might work for you. Its probably better for you to first go and study what West is and what you believe that you stand for. And then come back and try to be an intellectual.

2. Chinese Efforts last century: (1936 - muslim population in China 50 million, 2006 - it is about 10 million).

Are you on opium ..... no seriously?

The magnitude of the success of coercive chinese methods in taming islam can be gauged from this telling comparison with Democratic India: 1947 - muslim population in India was 30 million, In 2007 it is 200 million - give or take a few millions. The lesson - islam knows how to work its way around democracies.

Where did you get these figures. Muslims make up about 13% of India. Around 130million. About the same % they at 1950. In 1950 Indian population was about 350 million and Muslim were still about 12 to 13 %.

There is a lot "bs" (a british term) said on these boards. And some like this one can be quite a laugh. Here is another example

In China till recently arabic script and skull cap were banned and in the present days too islam is closely monitored and regulated; koran meetings and haj disallowed till recently; longer beard length can trigger arrests; moulvi's speeches need prior clearance from government; islam lost its vitality and most muslims in china have given up on islam and many are only nominally muslims. (It must be noted that china's coercive approach towards islam has not prevented it from forging close economic and military linkages with islamic world - engagement with Sudan regime, weapon proliferation to Pakistan etc.)

Are you seriously advocating violence again? I mean didnt you know that China is considred a dictatorship? And has been condemned for it poor human rights record? Havent you heard of Tibet and Dalai Lama yet? This wikipedia site might be quite enlightening for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China

By the USA has history of weapon proliferation to Saudi Arabia and to Pakistan to until they got the wind of the nuclear bomb. And? ...

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