When the going gets tough.. Mansoor gets going.. OUT OF CONTEXT" ( DID I HIT YOU HARD MANSOOR???

Submitted by Proud Indian (India), Apr 28, 2008 at 05:14

I understand that you have been hit hard by my earlier reply .. Now let me elaborate the whole thing .. I know when you read long replies you... cannot take the stress.. but please try and see the light,

Hmmmm... ISI broke USSR.. hahahahaha.. yor madrassas should attend our KG classes history lessons.. .. ISI knows zero about warfare.. It is better if it stays funding and training Jehadis..

Did USA tell Pakistan to step down during?? i didn't know that.. well now you tell who licks whose boots?? since when do proud pakistanis listened to Americans? The truth is Your Muslim Leadership was told to back down by christian leaders like USA RUSSIA AND THE EU to back out ( You yourself have mentioned it above ) because they knew what would befall on the great nation of pakistan if the " Dirty HINDU nation " ( Like you call India) responds.. Speaks a lot about the Muslim Spine.. I had mentioned about the earlier 3 WARS but you ignored.. I had mentioned about the Largest Army Surrenderred by Pakistan , You Ignored....

Lets read the case.

The cost of the war for Pakistan in monetary and human resources was high. In the book Can Pakistan Survive? Pakistan based author Tariq Ali writes, "Pakistan lost half its navy, a quarter of its airforce and a third of its army." India took approximately 90,000 prisoners of war that included Pakistani soldiers as well as some of their East Pakistani allies. 79,676 of these prisoners were uniformed personnel, of which 55,692 were Army, 16,354 Paramilitary, 5,296 Police, 1000 Navy and 800 PAF. ^[13]. The remaining prisoners were civilians - either family members of the military personnel or collaborators (razakars). The Hameedur Rahman Committee Report instituted by Pakistan puts the breakup of Pakistani POWs as follows :

Branch Number of captured POWs Army 54,154 Navy 1,381 Air Force 833 Paramilitary including police 22,000 Civilian personnel 12,000 Total: 90,368

It was one of the largest surrenders since World War II. India originally wished to try some 200 of them for war crimes for the brutality in East Pakistan, but eventually acceded to releasing them as a gesture of reconciliation. The Simla Agreement created the following year, also saw most of Pakistani territory (more than 15,000 km²) being given back to Pakistan to create "lasting peace" between the two nations and to affirm that India had no territorial ambitions.

The war led to the immediate surrender of Pakistani forces to the allied forces of India and Bangladesh, jointly known as the Mitro Bahini. Bangladesh became an independent nation, and the third most populous Muslim country. Loss of East Pakistan demoralized the Pakistani military and Yahya Khan resigned, to be replaced by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Mujibur Rahman was released from West Pakistani prison and returned to Dhaka on January 10, 1972.

The exact cost of the violence on the people of East Pakistan is not known. R.J. Rummel cites estimates ranging from one to three million people killed.^[8] Other estimates place the death toll lower at 300,000. On the brink of defeat around December 14, the Pakistani Army and its local collaborators systematically killed a large number of Bengali doctors, teachers and intellectuals ^[9][10], part of a pogrom against the Hindu minorities who constituted the majority of urban educated intellectuals.^[11][12] Young men, who were seen as possible rebels, were also targeted, especially students.

A Pakistan stamp depicting the 90,000 PoWs in Indian camps. This stamp was issued with the political aim of raising the POW issue at a global level in securing their release.

It was one of the largest surrenders since World War II. India originally wished to try some 200 of them for war crimes for the brutality in East Pakistan, but eventually acceded to releasing them as a gesture of reconciliation. The Simla Agreement created the following year, also saw most of Pakistani territory (more than 15,000 km²) being given back to Pakistan to create "lasting peace" between the two nations and to affirm that India had no territorial ambitions.

Nixon called Indira a Witch because she said that if US sends the 7th Fleet to Pakistan's help.. it will see the bottom of the arabian sea!!! THAT GUTS!!! and you guys listened to Clinton and backed out?? Where was your muslim pride??? You call us boot lickers??? do you know that USA sends regular alms to pakistan??? You guys need China's help for even pissing in the bushes.. .. should i say you lick China's boot?? Is Tariq Ali an Indian Journalist?? Is the The Hameedur Rahman Committee based in India???

This is just about the wars..Tell what about the others things i have highlighted.. can you give me a point by point reference?? Mad ravings about bootlicking , caste system etc only deviates from the main issue!!! but the fact is PAKISTAN IS A FAILED STATE !!!!

You talk about caste system in India? Heard about the SHIA SUNNI WARS? WHAT ABOUT THE TREATMENTS METED OUT TO AHMEDDIS??

PERFECT RELIGION? HECK YOU CANT EVEN DECIDE WHICH ONE OF YOU ARE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF ALLAH!

CLEAN RELIGION? Performing Ghussal is not cleanliness.. it is the hate which you have to clean from the mind and heart

You said"Pakistan can turn the table any time when wanted because it is just a matter of giving a signal." well Mansoor, your army was waiting for that signal during all the 4 wars we have fought!

What about the world cup losses?? what about your artists coming down here to perform? what about your borrowed missiles? what about your entire pakistani cricket team coming down to play in the ICL? what happenned to MUKHTAR MAI? IMRAN KHAN needs the Godrejs , Salman Khans, Amir Khans of India to build a hospital in Karachi ..

The whole forum is waiting for another GEM OF A REPLY from you..

Yours Truly

Proud Indian

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