Response to Infidel's Misreading of my remarks

Submitted by Melvin A. Fechter (United States), Jun 17, 2008 at 17:42

Regrettably, Infidel, you have misread my remarks. I will quote you to the extent necessary and place my response, as here, in bold-faced italics:

Submitted by Infidel (Canada), Jun 16, 2008 at 21:56

... again the world will have a Muslim nation determined to rule the world.

-------------------Bush has said, "Iraq will have a government representative of its Sunni, Shiite, and other components. I expect that to come true - although it will not be tomorrow - and for it to be a stable government, and for America to stay there until it does.

You say that; "Israel has been an intrusion of Western concepts and ideology into the Middle East."

--------------------Yes, - essentially, of course, from the point of view of the Muslims. Denying the sense in which it is true is absurd. Until Israel was reestablished in the Middle East in 1948, the ideologies of Western Civilization were virtually unrepresented in the Middle East for many centuries.

Israel developed their own concept for their government in 1948....

---------------------Of course! Right there in the Middle East! And of course they are furious about it! Surprised? Do you imagine I said Israel did not have a right to do exactly as it did?

... Furthermore, why does Israel allow a Mosque, a Catholic Church, an Anglican Church and other religious churches in their nation?

----------------------Because Israel is pursuing in the Middle East the concepts of Liberty, Equality, Fraternity of Western Civilization. Are you surprised Islam finds that objectionable?

And why have Muslim nations forbidden Jewish Synagogues from their countries?

----------------------Because Islam represents the ideologies of oppression and repression that bave dominated the Middle East virtually from the time of Mohammed until 1948.

You say that; "We have a right to extend our ideology throughout the Western World, but your ideology has no right to intrude upon the Middle East."

----------------------You at least understand, do you not, that I was quoting, not approving, the ideology of Islam?

Israel has occupied the land of Israel from 1100BC and have been attacked since 721BC...

----------------------Regrettably, there was a 2,000-year span, from about 70 a.d. until 1948 a.d., in which Israel did not and could not exercise the power of a sovereign nation.

, and are now being threatened by Iran, and from your article it appears that you believe that they are responsible for the carnage in the Middle East.

----------------------Try reading my article again. Israel is doing what it has an absolute right to do. Given the facts, the carnage was and is inevitable. Western Civilization and Militant Islam are in a fight to the finish. One or the other will prevail in this world. The War is already well underway. To follow your suggestion that we simply withdraw from Iraq would be to accept defeat.

No people on the face of this earth have suffered as much as the Jews, and quite frankly, they deserve respect and freedom.

-----------------------Look, Infidel, I am a Jew, and it appears that you are not. I regard the recreation of the State of Israel as a miracle. Its re-creation has been as a Phoenix risen from the ashes of the Holocaust. There will be nothing even resembling a Sovereign State of Palestine unless and until the Palestinians lay down their arms and are willing to live in peace. At that point, if it ever comes, which I doubt, what will be available to them is "the facts on the ground." Meanwhile, notwithstanding the idealistic imagination of the U.N., they continue to seek Israel's destruction but will themselves ever be confronted by this ancient rule of law: If you make war, you risk the loss of land. I do not expect them to seek peace during the lifetime of any human being on this earth today; that is, not certainly within the next 100 years.

... So if GOD is with the Jews, then you should be too.

------------------------And so I am. I suggest you try again to read what I have said - this time with understanding.

Melvin A Fechter

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