sTs - we already know the truth

Submitted by Kiwi (New Zealand), Jun 30, 2008 at 03:30

A few points you mention:-

As the Al-Aqsa mosque was not built until after the Prophet's death it is obvious that it cannot be the furthest mosque revealed in his dream! Didnt Aisha say that he only went there in his mind? Can't recall the hadith.

Circumcision:- "The Reliance Of The Traveller", a classic manual of Islamic Sacred Law c4.3:- 'circumcision is obligatory for both men and women.' The description then follows plus a proviso that says Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband. According to another hadith, Mohammet PBUH condoned it, merely saying "do not cut too deep". But you say only the ignorant circumcise females. Circumcision is not a Christian practice! Female circumcision is neither a Jewish or Christian practice, it is confined purely to Islamic jurisdiction. We do not see young Jewish/Christian girl's in Australasian hospitals being patched up after being genitally mutilated. But I see one can now have cosmetic surgery to replace the hymen(if you are wealthy enough) - where does the hypocracy end? Obviously there are muslim women who are not quite so commited to Islam as males are.

Honour killing/stoning:- You are quoting a long abandoned tenet from the Old Testament - the Jewish people reformed this even before the Prohet was born. Mohammed PBUH reclaimed it from old texts that were read to him and reinstituted it in the Quran. Interestingly enough, we have had our one muslim MP go on television to argue the right (in Islamic countries) to stone adulterers. You can imagine how well received that was by the general public! We are signatories of the UNHRC and his argument , as a member of our government, was an abhorrence to those who elected him.

Western reverts:- Mmmmmm! Apart from the attention seekers like Yvonne Ridley whose career was in rapid decline before she reinvented it by very publicly reverting to Islam the few converts we seem to see down here are the less attractive women who, ignored by their male peers, revert to Islam by marrying one of the many immigrants desperate for citizenship . We are presently seeing a trend where our male citizens prefer marrying degreed women and the lesser educated are becoming wallflowers.

Rape cases:- I cannot see your logic in saying that 60% of rapes in the west are not reported. If they are not reported how can one possibly arrive at that conclusion? However, Islam does not see abuse as the west does (rape within marriage, child marriage etc. ) and it is not reported (e.g. abuse within the madrassa). So much is not reported because of the shame within muslim families - better for women and children to suffer than to shame the family name and male pride. But as more and more becomes public the more horror it generates in secular societies. If all men, no matter what religion, respected and venerated all women and children, sexual abuse and rape would not happen, unfortunately Islam puts the onus on women and degrades them by hiding them away. What does that say about the male phsyce or lack of self control? Rape, like Islam, is all about male power over women.

Nuns:- This is their choice, none are forced into a convent and many orders in the west today do not dress in the full covered robes of yesteryear. Many of these women joined to escape poverty as well as to do good works around the world. But, of course, fully robed nuns have not escaped unscathed in many African muslim countries.

Justice in heaven:- Another good escape route for evil men. Whilst the woman and children may have to suffer here on earth at the hands of men, those men will only be judged for their deeds in heaven. Slightly unfair wouldn't you say? Particularily when absolutely noone can actually prove there is a heaven and evil men can circumvent the rules by dying in jihad, automatically gaining a martyr's entrance through the pearly gates.

As I have said, I am a secular person and would hope to go to heaven upon my death if there is such a place. For the moment I would leave you with the Golden Rule ( A Christian belief, but one that would stop much of the suffering on earth.) This is what our schools still teach-

Luke 6:31 Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. QED!

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