to Maggie. yes burning churches is un islamic

Submitted by tariq (United Arab Emirates), Sep 28, 2006 at 08:19

as is typical of the deceit that is practised ... your comments are the exact opposite of truth. First I will deal with the slur against Pope Benedict with regards to Nazism. If you had ever bothered to read the truth, rather than the lies that are printed for the gain of those who hate anything to do with the Catholic Church, you would know what really happened when Josef Ratzinger was just a boy in Germany at the time of the rise of the Third Reich. All were required to attend the Hitler youth. There were no exceptions. It was compulsory. It was not something that was done on a voluntary basis.

So, Josef and his brother Georg were forced to go along to Hitler youth sessions, except that Josef did not attend. The young Josef Ratzinger refused to go along to the sessions, and his school teachers did nothing to discourage this young man's bravery in standing up to what he believed to be wrong. Also, when he was forced to participate in another way, he in fact deserted, and so he never did operate any equipment that was meant to stop the bombing of German cities. In other words, the alleged Nazism is just fluff.

to give my argument i quoted a newspaper article. before contradicting it i suggest you give me a reliable source instead of dismissing it by saying that they are "lies that are printed for the gain of those who hate anything to do with the Catholic Church"

"Now to your points about a lack of tolerance. With regard to the visit to Auschwitz, I doubt that any Jew wants to be reminded that Christians also perished in the concentration camps. "

that still does not explain y he didnt take the blame on behalf of germany and the chirch. after all they support it.

"Now to your points about a lack of tolerance. With regard to the visit to Auschwitz, I doubt that any Jew wants to be reminded that Christians also perished in the concentration camps. Ratzinger has not denied the holocaust, like Ahmamonkey in Iran. The Pope acknowledges that evil happened in Germany and Poland at the hands of the Nazis. AhImamonkey denies the deaths of over 6 million Jews, plus at least as many Christians. At the same time he denies the deaths of the at least 300,000 who were euthanaised because they had imperfections prior to the outbreak of the second world war, and the implementation of the final solution. The real Nazi is that freak who is the current president in Iran. That man should be locked up in prison for the evil that has been perpetrated in his name."

do u deny the Second Holocaust? i believe in both of them.

if ahmedenejad doesnt believe in it then he shoud be provided evidence for it.

"What is it about "I hold you in esteem", which is what the Pope said to the Muslim ambassadors who did take up the invitation to dialogue did you not understand? Esteeming someone means that they are held in high regard. On the other hand, look at the way that the monkeys and dogs in Gaza, Lahore, Londonistan, Karachi, and elsewhere have behaved towards all Christians, and to Pope Benedict in particular!! Do you think that we are so dumb that we do not understand the meaning of the picture of the Pope with blood dripping? Well, we do understand and we know where the real lack of intolerance exists."

wot part of his comment on buddism did you not understand?

"This Pope is not going to be soft on the issue relating to the lack of freedom to worship for other faiths in Islamic countries. Look at the way churches have been fire bombed!! You dare to claim that such an action is unIslamic. If it was so unislamic, why did Mohammed sack churches? Huh? Islamics from the time of Mohammed (and they did not exist before Mohammed) destroyed churches, the sacred vessels, and they subjugated all who would not convert by mere submission. Millions of Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindu, Jain and others have died at the hand of Islam. There is no tolerance for other faiths within Islam, unless the Dhimmis pay the tax that is imposed upon those who have been forced to submit to this ruthless rule. The Dhimmis are forced to wear different clothing from the conquerors. They are not allowed to walk in groups together, and must walk in single file. They are not even allowed to walk on the same side of the road as the scum who defeated them."

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

wheres the evidence?

"The Catholic Church teaches that we should have the right to woship according to our beliefs, and that includes having the freedom to build our own church structures."

your church is wrong:

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

3)Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

"Yet, under Islam, Jews are not permitted to build synagogues, and the Christians are not allowed to build new churches, neither are they allowed to repair any that are damaged by such unislamic violence."

wheres the evidence?

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

"What is being revealed now about the lack of tolerance that islamics have for others, is nothing new. They have always behaved in this fashion, which is a good indication that what we are seeing is exactly what Mohammed ...preached."

tolerance?

see how tolerant god in the bible is:

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

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