For 'Ali Islam and violence and al-Mushrikeen fi Mecca!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 30, 2006 at 18:19

My dear Ali: OK let us take the case of the so called al-Mushrikeen fi Mecca ...So your allah in ayat al-saif (the sword verse or Q9:5) says :

1. Iqtoloo al-mushrikeen. Or kill the idolators! Unless they convert to Islam. Is this fair my dear Ali? And so much for the little bad joke about "there is no compuslion in religion" So you tell me my dear Ali why does Allah change his mind so often? And why would he ask Muhammad to do this messy job for him?

2. Your Allah is asking Muhammad and his followers to commit a crime and kill innocent human beings. whose only crime is that they did not believe that Muhammad was a prophet or that his Allah was a real God.. A less messy way, and your Allah being omnipotent, was to get the mushrikeen to convert to Islam without the threat of violence. But it seems that your allah cannot do such a thing without the help of human beings. Don't you find that this is indeed odd? What do you think my dear Ali?

3. Then al-mushrikeen fi Mecca convert to Islam not because they believed that Abul Qasim aka Muhammad was a real prophet from God or that their real God is Allah but because of the fear fo being killed by the sword. What do you think my dear Ali?

4. Therefore, I must conclude that in this case at least Islam was sprerad by the word.

But the real question that you did not answer: Why would Allah, if he is really omnipotent, ask for help and incite Muslims to kill in-order to spread Islam, unless your Allah is not really a God. What do you think my deal Ali?

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