Re: Amina

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Mar 15, 2008 at 04:07

"yes i agree with you, but on the other hand, Internet can also be used to reach to other cultures in a way that you can not do by television or reading. Or holidays, as my experience is that on holidays i end up in a sheltered surroundings. "

Most of the internet is garbage and lies. It's amazing how easily fooled people are by this. I suspect most of the time, it's because they get to see and hear what they want to justify something stupid. To get anything good whether it's an analysis of the Quran or porn you basically have to buy it. Most people who are on the internet for personal reasons are often wasting their time or up to no good. I can spend all month giving you examples of that.

"Most people (not all) in the West do no know what real poverty and living in surroundings with much violence is and how this changes people."

Oh really? Here in America, we have PLENTY of poor people. I grew up near an Indian Reservation in an old trailer house, and I don't need smug Europeans to tell me about poverty.

"Why you think the drowned people who wash up the shores of Spain went in those boats? For fun?"

No, its because their leaders have been caught red-handed saying they want their populations to increase to subdue Europe. They are doing nothing for population control. You may be able to pull a fast on self-hating white Western liberals, but I am not so easy to fool with that. I know what dark ambitions Islam has for Western Europe.

"Many young people in Africa have totally wrong view of Europe/USA and of what they can do there. And indeed try to use ladies and men to get a foot in Europe. Once they are in they import family and drop the partner after robbing him/her of everything. This is criminality in deepest sense and totally against real Islam."

Yes, and Osama bin laden would say that such deception is acceptable. After all, he thinks that by population America with such people, he can defeat us. Only trouble is, there are over 250 million Christians that live here. Tell me, Amina, who is in charge of Islam? Who determines what teachings are to be implemented?

Do you really expect teachings of Islam, even the sensible ones, to stop people from doing bad?

I can't tell where you are coming from, but you are naive if you think your religion is not sufferable to the ills of secularism.

The reality is, most people do it because they are desperate. All these women who marry and convert to Islam, do so most of the time because they want a family and DONT CARE about religion. Many Muslims underestimate this enormously because they are so wrapped up in how great their religion is.

"Me, i passed my 50th birthday long ago, was chased too by all those young men on net, horrible, so after some time i stopped all penpal subscriptions etc. but really i now chat with some people about our mutual interest, philosophy and religion, and this is very very enriching for me. Just take care that you do not talk about love, do not send money, do not give out your adress unless you really chatted for long time and even then better give adress of a good friend, and as soon as the other person talks about I love you then stop the contact as love is not possible only by internet contact. It must grow."

I will never endorse an on-line relationship. It is folly. The percentages are against you, and all it does is waste time.

"Do not get mistaken by the friendliness of the family of your chatfriend, they may all be in it together to get at least one of them to USA europe or wherever - and do not condemn them for this unless you too worked hard in a terrible factory to eat, and with 30 look like a person of 60 in the West because of the hard life. And in some cultures the people can express themself in very nice ways, do not get mislaid by that, but try to see under the surface. When you have a good income, enough to eat etc. then thank God for that and do not forget that you could have been born where conditions are different. "

What a bunch of nonsense. First of all, I am Catholic and am not allowed to condemn anyone. Secondly, being poor doesn't give you the right to cheat anyone, and tell me this: If these people on-line who SCAM Westerners are so darn poor, how do they have internet access? Do tell us, Amina, because so far, it seems like you are PLEASED at ANY chance Islam has to grow in the West.

"When you want to meet, then arrange a holidays all by yourself (hotel etc.) then maybe you can meet in a pub somewhere where you are safe. "

Always, always do this.

"In Western countries many women are not appreciated at all and used and abused, they are supposed to look like and work like men and motherhood homeliness and gentle nature are not well liked. .

"I know several good marriages here that started by internet/phone contact, but after that the two met and slowly came to know each other."

Personal testimony doesn't hold water in science. And the statisitics say otherwise. MOST of the time, on-line relationships FAIL in the worst way possible: financial and emotional ruin, even death.

"Family life is important for many people so when you are beyond the age of having children, be very careful when you meet a man, west or nonwest, check out what he really wants about children. To avoid being deserted in the future. And in some countries family influence is very big, so that the man has not real free choice in this."

That is good advice.

"Those that criticize Islam: plz start praying 5 times a day to God, for 1 year, and then see in your heart if you still dislike the religion of islam, or any religion, so much. Praying softens the heart and makes things clear."

How about allowing Christians to preach openly in Morocco, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Iran, huh? How about leading by example and softening, as you say, the heart.

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