Re: Momo

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Mar 24, 2008 at 19:17

"first of all i don't have to tell you a damn thing about myself,"

Then you have me and everyone else on here at a disadvantage and raise suspicion.

---for the others, thats fine they may do so,and yes i have my own opinion of you sure as does most here. the only agenda i have here is wanting to see everyone happ. ,i know that can't be possible for all thats a given. frankly you tell all couples what will happen in their relationship how can you predict that 'You cannot" even to those that say theyre happy.----

When there is a 70%+ failure rate, I think the odds would be obvious. If you TRULY are interested in making everyone "happy" you'll tell them the truth even if it means hurting a few feelings. If not, I'd say you're just wasting time for attention and approval you don't get in real life. That, momo, is the nuts and bolts as to why most people are on-line trying to forge relationships.

"all i'm saying, love is bigger than you and they are human,did all your investigating teach you that?"

It taught me that most people don't have a clue what love is, they think it's all about sex, tolerance and going through struggles like we see in the movies. Compability and commitment mean next to nothing these days, and that is why our divorce rates are high and why these scammers are banking in millions.

It also taught me that even in our so-called progressive, liberal, technology-oriented society, people with little to no education can dupe PH D graduates to send them cash so they can lay around all day. Why? Because secularism promotes personal irresponsibility galore. And these scammers know it.

Many of these so-called poor people are willing to travel to Mexico, the UK, or the Netherlands to meet with you.

If you are talking to someone on the internet, they are not those pot-bellied starving Africans you see on national geographic.

----i have read your posts also and you say that you have been scammed, also sorry for that, but at the time all you saw was love am i right? but did the first one stop you? no not from reading your post. see , you had to learn from it and it made you stronger. love hurts----

While I appreciate the sensitivity, I am quite over what happened to me. People will make mistakes, but if I can minimize that, I will most certainly will.

What I experienced (and what most of the women on here experience) is NOT love. I THOUGHT it was, but our society has bent and twisted the word love on so many levels and if often confused with lust, initial attraction or some other fleeting emotion that wouldn't stand the test of time. We live in era where our most needy and basic desires MUST be fulfilled, or so we think.

Here in the West in the last 40 years we have managed to take the procreative value out of love. We think that sex or attraction = love, when most every reputable social and psychological study says otherwise.

One thing that apple and I do agree on somewhat is that third world nations have higher birth-rates because of the importance of family. Here in the West (with few exception) love is all about the pleasure and fun, not the responsibility.

"i know this but these are grown women, most know what it's like to be hurt and that never feels good not matter what race or religion."

Many women on here are hurt, momo, and even worse, they aren't sure about the relationships they are in. They don't want to get hurt again, and if you REALLY have read ALL of my posts, like those who defend Moroccan men SAY they do, you have been eerily silent on the Russia, Latino and Nigerian women who scam western men.

"no one went into this with their eyes shut,"

Really? Then why are some folks so stunned to see that this has happened to them? I'll even admit wholeheartedly I was too and I felt like I was the ONLY one, until it happened to my friends also. I actually feel lucky because she and I weren't married, and it was a domestic relationship with no kids.

---these are third world countries we're talking about. lots see america as a better life but thats the chance they are taking-----

What many of these third worlders see are desperate men and women. Why do you think you see so many women who are in their 30s-50s on here with kids on here discerning relationships with men in their early 20s? Why do you think I use comparisions of men in their 50-60s who marry teenage women from Eastern Europe?

Is this the "love" that is supposed to be above and beyond me? Because I don't see it. It reminds of Hugh Hefner running around magazine shots with women he is old enough to be the grandfather of.

Because what these scammers key in on are hard-luck cases and above all, desperation. Desperation is like blood to a shark in these cases.

I've tried to avoid mentioning this because it can sound offensive, but the reality is the scammers know that divorcees with kids are desperate. They are more apt to listen to people and adverstising over the phone, internet or TV. Something they probably would never do if they were still married. The behavioral changes are astronomical on many levels, momo.

"i know many american women that have met men online and are still together because they took a chance at love."

If we are going to use a scientific basis, personal testimony must be throw out. And in this case, I would, because most of these international, on-line marriages and relationships fail. The numbers say so. In fact, many of them don't even get that far if the person getting scammed is desperate enough. So, those folks you know (not sure what many means here) are bucking the odds.

" let me say that anyone that takes another persons advise about all muslims being bad has their own issues to deal with along with you."

I never said all Muslims are bad, but on other posts on Pipes I have made it very clear that the problems of Islam go beyond terrorism. You would probably turn pale if you knew truly how many Muslim men date Western women for the SOLE purpose of advancing their 7^th-century agenda on the West. That is a PROVEN fact, not just my perception and has even been mentioned time after time by Muslim men themselves.

I think if you ever reply to me or talk about me on here again, you would be wise to NEVER use the "you are picking on Muslims" argument. For one thing, I am NOT a self-hating liberal who suffers from white guilt, and I don't fear being called a racist, islamophobe, or whatever. In fact, I'm probably the only person on here who's been called an Islamic terrorist and a Zionist in the same thread. And I'm beginning to doubt that either you have read all my posts, or you're just partial to Muslim men because you're involved with one.

---i understand what the ladies are saying and what they are going through,some come on here and answer their own questions and concerns but does that stop the majority? no it does not. all comes back to what i said before they have to go through it and learn from it,just like as chilren when we made mistakes and learned from them same with adults thats apart of life not the best part but a part.---

Just like children? How many kids do you know who have lost 5,000-10,000 dollars? How many kids do you know sit around the house in silence feeling alone at the lost of someone you loved and trusted and respected on intimate levels turned out to be a fraud?

-----so ladies i say take every thing in your relationship into concideration it's a hard and long process for some,for others not so hard i know your heart is out there but keep your eyes and ears wide open. sure come here and seek advise if thats what you need,but i would not sugest gettting it from someone who has such hatred for others and he can say what ever he pleases disguise---------

What disguise? You're the one keeping secrets about yourself on here, not me.

"it all he wants but that is all there is,and there are many ladies here that have been through what your going through ,just like the love of your life you have to seek and you shall find the most upright and honest,and i'm not here defending my so called man."

Honesty, huh? I haven't seen anyone who's opposed my point of view on here post facts or stats. As for honesty, I have to be honest and say that your advice is dangerous. I don't think you really care what happens to other women on here as long as you get your jabs in at me.

-----we all can see that he is an experienced blogger waiting to see what you have done next luigi.if your making a difference is telling these ladies to dislike muslims how is that helping anyone?----

I've never told anyone to dislike Muslims, but like I said, if you've read my posts you would know that I am Catholic, and the reputation of Islam is for Muslims to look after. I merely report the facts, and the facts are that Muslim men are not always great, honest and family-oriented because they are from the third world.

I'm always amused at how you defend Muslim men, yet I haven't seen you defend Russian, Latino or Nigerian women, despite the fact I've said those scams are even worse.

------and thats what ur doing some might agree with you but does that make it right?i think not.as for you and your reality luigi there are good men on the internet you claim to be one of them sorry to burst your bubble :0.------------------

First of all, you're really not sorry, and you didn't burst my bubble. The only thing bursting from what you say will be the wallets and hearts of women who fall for your phoney advice which despite your curious personal withholdings, suggests to me that you have some personal interest you are defending.

---------as far as who i am i'm a WOMAN thats been coming here far longer than you have dear read them all and even help a few,now is that direct enough for you? remember ladies eyes wide open :)-------------

The facts and stats don't support anything you are saying on here.

"APPLE IS NOT MY PAL BUT SHE CAN BE! GOD BLESS YOU LADIES"

I should point out: I've seen GOD BLESS YOU written on nearly every fraudulent e-mail. Coincidence, momo? :0

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