Help me out here ...

Submitted by Oliver (United States), Apr 24, 2008 at 13:17

Submitted by Manzoor Hussain (Canada), Apr 17, 2008 at 18:53

Powerful countries used jihad for their favour. Like jihadies were best people in the world when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. When Russia was defeated, Jihadies became terrorists. These powers do not like democracies in Muslim countries. If a country is a democratic, in short time, such slogan will disappear, as people are allowed to particiapte in government. Like pakistanies voted about 75% against forces these were directly or indirectly supporting radicals. The best solution of this problem is democratic governments, probably those govt. do not suit purpose of western governments.

Hello Manzoor - your comments seem to be a bit 'dis-jointed' so I was hoping you could elaborate ...

First of all: "Powerful countries used jihad for their favour. Like jihadies were best people in the world when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. When Russia was defeated, Jihadies became terrorists." 1] At the time the 'West' was engaged in a 'war' with the then USSR. So the USA backed the Afgan 'Freedom-Fighters' and that resulted in the defeat of the USSR - well, turnaround is fair play - we just did what the USSR did to us in Viet Nam. 2] The 'Jihadis' did not become terrorists as a result of the support they received from the USA - but from the encouragement and support they received from the TALIBAN. 3] True, in hind-sight, the USA should have tried to help the Afganis to develop a democratic government - but it is difficult to say whether that would have succeeded within the backdrop of Islamic fervor that definately played a part in the defeat of the USSR.

Next: "These powers do not like democracies in Muslim countries. If a country is a democratic, in short time, such slogan will disappear, as people are allowed to particiapte in government. Like pakistanies voted about 75% against forces these were directly or indirectly supporting radicals." 1] Nonsense - the West would applaud the develpoment of TRUE Democracy in all of Dar al Islam. But TRUE Democarcy cannot co-exist with TRUE Islam. In TRUE Islam every aspect of everyday life must be in 'submission' to Allah - whatever happens is the will of Allah. 2] Did the elections in Gaza produce a government 'for the people' or 'for Allah'? Has the Pakistani government done 'anything' to root out the 'forces these were directly or indirectly supporting radicals'? Elections do not automatically equate a government as Democratic.

Finally: "The best solution of this problem is democratic governments, probably those govt. do not suit purpose of western governments." 1] People who 'grow-up' in a predominately Islamic country simply cannot comprehend the concept of 'Freedom to govern oneself' - this is because there is NO FREEDOM IN ISLAM - IN ISLAM THERE IS ONLY SUBMISSION. For that reason I do not hold high hopes for the success of either the Afgani or Iraqi so-called Democracies. 2] If Democracies in Muslim countries does not suit the purposes of the USA - why then are we expending American lives in Afganistan and Iraq in the futile attempt to establish them?

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