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Another victim of Arabian imperialism and IslamReader comment on item: What is Jihad? Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 23, 2013 at 08:38 Our dear Ali who lives among kuffar wrote The Quran and the Torah is not the same. Really? ومنكم نستفيد Oh the Arabic? Well may be you can ask your Mullah to help you with it if he knows Arabic that is I think the biggest issue between the Christians, Muslims and Jews is in the account of Abraham and his sons Ishmeal and Isaac. Really? the Jews and Christians care about who is the subject of the sacrifice in Islam? since when? The issue if Ishmeal is the first born and is to be given the inheritance of the first born. Ishmeal is the line or the Muslim faith. In the Torah, Old Testament are in instances unclear dates and timing of how old Ishmeal was when he was cast out with his bondwoman mother Hagar. I believe the Quran has a different account of Ishmeal being an infant and The OT sounding as though he is an infant but the time line shows him to be as old as seventeen which does not make sense in the story. gobbledygook So you tell us where does it say in the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic that إسماعيل is the subject of the sacrifice? Let me help you: you will not find it and where does it say in the Qur'an that إسحاق is not really the subject of the sacrifice? Let me help you you will not find it How come you did not know that? as a matter of fact al-Tabari makes it very clear in his التاريخ he has no clue For the readers: The subject of the sacrifice was indeed a big debate among early Muslim historians and the subject was not fixed until the 11th century CE or some 400 years after the death of Muhammad the so called rasul and this is indeed what Mohamed Heykal says in his book The Life Of Muhammad page 25: The Qur'an does not mention the name of the subject of the sacrifice and Muslim historians disagree in this regard What a disaster So Muslim historians disagree and you our dear Ali who lives among kuffar have the answer? Mash'allah How come you did not know that? Could it be because you are and you must pardon me ignorant? or could it be that you really knew and you were hoping that we kuffar do not know? So which one is it? This is where the true conflict is-who inherits Israel. Hello: your Allah is a Zionist so read this http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/201339 What a disaster Allah is a Zionist so do you disagree with your Allah our dear Ali? This is still the problem today. What problem? You are and you must pardon me ignorant Muslims believe that the Quran is the true account. Really? The Qur'an tells us who is really the subject of the sacrifice? Where? as in سورة واية Let me help you: you are making things up right? And your Allah says that he is the author of the OT right? then how did he allow the Jews to corrupt it and change the subject of the sacrifice you tell us I think so many People call themselves Christian and have never read the Bible and do not practice what God told Moses to tell the people to practice. What does this have to do with the fact that the Qur'an does not tell us about the name of the subject of the sacrifice you tell us But Muslims cover their heads and do not worship idols and etc and seemed to be misunderstood for the practice. Really? let me see 1. Muslims venerate and kiss a book made from paper and ink and binding material called the Qur'an right? But this is idol worshipping our dear Ali who lives among kuffar 2. Muslims kiss and venerate a cold black stone located in el-ka3ba but this is idol worshipping our dear Al;i 3. Muslims have a big time idol and his name if Muhammad but this is also idol worshipping our dear Ali 4. Muslims have a big time idol called Mecca a city that they regard as an idol on a garnd scale 5. Muslims pray to an unseen God so you tell us what is the difference between the praying to an unseen God and an idol? let me help you there is no difference What a disaster you are an idol worshipper too our dear Ali All of those practices minis the not patting or being liked by dogs is in the Old Testament. Christians eat pork and worship idols made of wood and metal. And as I just proved to you and so are Muslims! So congratulations our dear Ali but you are an idol worshipper too So I don't completely understand what the Old Testament is used for in Christianity if they pick and choose what to follow. I urge you to leave islam and get a grip on reality I am a Protestant by birth Oh darn it and I'm the grand Imam of the Mosque in Mecca Why the lies and delusions you tell us Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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