To STFR

Submitted by dianamoon12 (United States), Dec 7, 2005 at 20:59

You responded to one of my posts with 2 New Testament Bible verses, that showed how violent Jesus Christ was. But still, you don't seem to get the concept. In Christianity, GOD is the one who is to punish the unbeliever. Jesus says "I come to bring the sword" He does not say, you take your sword. The Qu'uran does. I know, because I have it sitting right here.

I think that I counted upwards of 24 different Suras ( and I am Very familiar with Hadith and customs in Islam... ) where Allah tells Muslims to kill the infidel. In the Old Testament, the "disturbing" stories, are just that Stories, not directives about how we are to behave as people. We as human beings are filled with every sin imaginable. But Jesus Christ came to be a sinless sacrifice for us. If you read his teachings, it is abundantly clear how peaceful he is. Have you ever heard the expression, Turn the other cheek? As a Christian, I am instructed that if you slap me, I am to offer my other cheek to you, for the same abuse. This does not sound like a violent man, does it?

Also, research for yourself. Out of every mention of the word sword in the New Testament, the only 2 that are remotely violent are the 2 that you quoted. And I just demonstrated that one was a directive as to what God would do, not his followers. The second verse that you quoted was a verse in the middle of a story. It was what is called a parable, A fable that Jesus told. A story that teaches a moral. It was not literally telling the disciples to sell their things for a sword. There are 30 mentions of the word sword in the New Testament, and every other mention is about NOT taking up the sword against your enemies, or about God himself using the sword to seperate believers from unbelievers. Not one verse in the New Testament state that we, as Christians, are to take up the sword, against unbelievers. Only God has the right to punish the unbeliever. As I stated before, i counted at least 24 Suras in the Qu'uran commanding the Muslim believer to kill those who refuse to convert.

Also, your refering me to Wikipedia for a definition, well, Wikipedia, as popular and noble a cause as it is, is a member directed dictionary. This means that I could submit a definition, and it could possibly be posted there. Every regular paper dictionary that I looked up Jihad in, stated that Jihad was an " Islamic holy war".

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