I don't know if you noticed, angie

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Jun 26, 2008 at 11:54

But Western women who are in "relationships" with these men are the only ones defending this. Middle Eastern and Muslim men and women on here, at their own expense, don't even approve of this.

hey zella, zella, zella,-- please...not all of these men are nuts, you know? they are not animals...well, okay, some of them are.. but not ALL....

Men aren't animals. Some treat women well, some don't. It's as simple as that. It's just the ones who are decent are going to women from their own culture no matter how much you or others defend them or pander to them.

you really dont know if this guy is using oiliva.. you dont know their relatiionship, and neither do i, but give it a chance.. let her play it out.. ask the right questions...

Asking the "right" questions doesn't always work and is no substitute for in-person communication.

and she has lost nothing if he is playing.. american men can be bigger jerks.. at least these men give us amazing words of love and amazing honor and edification..(even is it may be a lie) an american man has NO brain power to even think or imagine words like this....

To think I just told Lilly that I wouldn't defend American men.

I guess it's easy to believe lies, which is what most of the men who butter you up say, and the reality is, Angie, a lot of American guys do give amazing words of love, honor and edification, it's just multicultural apologetic feminists don't like it because it's not from a tanned, younger Berber. There are plenty of guys here in America who are sick and tired of women putting up a fuss whenever they pull out a chair or open up a door for her.

It's along the same lines as the American men not knowing how to respond to a compliment you give them. If it's an awkward response, are you going to compliment him again? Probably not. So, if someone does something nice for you and you wanna give a five-minute spiel about how women can take care of themselves, be my guest. It's not about a man showing he's more powerful than you are, it's just an expression of courtesy (and you wonder why chilvary is gone, well, ladies, your gender isn't innocent here either).

Keep doing it and you WILL end up with the stereotypical loser who'll leave you off when the sex isn't fun anymore, or you'll be a lonely 40-50 year-old taking a sex vacation to North Africa and deluding yourself that a relationship will come of it.

( to my knowledge and experience which i confess and have repented has been a lot)... american men can't see past the remote, the online games, sports, beer, sleep, food, and ME ME ME, meaning SELF SELF SELF... and im sure there are a few odd ones out there who do say amazing words like these muslim men do,,, but hey, ya gotta admit they have the cornor on the market.. thats why we get so ticked off at them.. they know how to talk..

A lot of men are selfish in the West, that is true. Still doesn't change the fact that on-line scammers and liars and jihadists are prevalent.

anyway.... go a bit easy on these guys.. remember, they DID make us feel awesome for a while.. and NO one put a gun to our heads to make us say.... OH YOU ARE GODS GIFT...... right? we loved it while it lasted.. we just need to get over it.. i pray a lot. :)

It's good that you pray a lot, Angie, but I have no intention on "going easy" on anyone. Personally, I don't think it's about the compliments in many cases as it is about getting a younger, thinner, more fit, taller, different-skin-colored man from a different culture.

The evidence of that on this board in other cases over the internet is astounding. The defense that women such as yourself put up here is NOT reciporcated by these men. If anything, they are laughing in their sleeve and/or plotting the downfall the West while you and other women on here try to show how unique and tolerant you are for intercultural dating or whatever reason it is.

Just remember what you said once orthodox Islam makes it's move against the West and then see if you'll find comfort in the arms a North African Muslim male.

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