Defending Moroccan Men and Your Situation--Is it for Real?

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Sep 9, 2008 at 23:55

hi there Lisa! Well, thanks for sharing.

Let's be clear on a couple of things, and I'm going to reply directly to what you say for our readers, ok?

I have read many of the stories on here as well as others...Here is my story....Maybe mine is different....I agree with the posters that replied in defense for Moroccan men..

I don't. The reason is that many of the man-defense posts were posted just to get me all riled up and for people to prove how tolerant they are. Either that, or their men are extremely insecure. Who asks their girlfriend or wife to defend thier relationship on-line?

Most of the "man-defense" posts are like ssomething you'd see on facebook or topix where people try and prove how right they are and how wrong everyone else is and where teenagers join groups

Let's face it, there are people who live here who would go meandering around asking every single ethnic group if they thought well of them. It's ridiculous, it's a cry for attention, and it is NOT unique!

.Not all Moroccan Men are the same....

No, but like every other culture in existence and that has existed, most of them prefer and will have the best chance of a successful relationship with other Moroccans. That's how it is, and most of the people who see otherwise have clearly been influenced by false propaganda (calling that is being friendly) on multiculturalism designed to keep Western elitist in power.

It's any wonder why we have all these problems.

My Moroccan is caring, romantic, a hard worker and struggles daily and has the best out-look on life "Tomorrow will be a better day"....He is so positive and yes a little jealous because he thinks I am beautiful but he will be first to tell you but at same time he never questions me nor will he take or even borrow any money from me and I have even offered to give him the phone/internet payment and he will not accept" His reply is "You are a single mother and baby you need every dollar..how can I take money from you?"

First of all, that actually doesn't mean as much as you think it does. People can be ANYBODY over the internet. I've even had women talk to me who were probably "men." The confidence of men on-line is much higher, usually, than when on an actual date.

On-line dating scammers are not the desperate 419 Nigerian scammers that you have seen John Stossel of NBC investigate undercover. They are more than happy to talk about honest and intergrity and all that.

If your relationship with him is so great and you are so sure about his intentions, why come on here, Lisa? What's there to gain? You already know, right?

have asked "Simo" several times to let me help and he will not accept.

Again, Lisa, it does not mean anything! He could very well be waiting for marriage and then you'll find out who he really is. And why not be nice and refuse your offers? You're already talking about marriage! he knows you're not going to leave on a whim now, so now, if he's scamming you, he can take some "gambles on defense" as commentator John Madden would say.

His pride is worth more to him and he says he will go to a cyber cafe' before He loses my trust over accepting any money.....

Genuine trust and love do NOT happen over the internet, even with webcam.

I see him daily on live cam and I have learned his character, his honesty, loyalty over the past year....

.He never questions me about my finances or personal issues..

They often assume you have money. Personal issues? He's not asking you about personal issues, but he's okay with marrying you?

The more I read this, Lisa, the less real it is to me.

..Its like a true love story in the making. We have hour long talks in our web cam visits...through which i have met his mom, sisters, and brother....he too is like me.....

I've been on here for eight months, and if I had a ten dollar bill everytime I heard something like that

wants to find a life long partner who is good and honest and he believes I am those qualities he is looking for

That's what they all say, Lisa. I thought you said he was different.

and he is 32 and I am 42 but everyone says I look way younger and I really look about his age and I wear young clothing/fashion....I have a 22 year old son who talks to my "Simo" and my daughters talk to him and accepts him....

The age difference here is another red flag. Listen, Lisa, it doesn't matter if your families talk. That happens with other women, too. In fact, sometimes, they go and meet the family in person and it's still a scam. There is absolutely nothing unique about your situation.

I understand that you are attracted to this man, and I know that you think you are in love. But it is not love, Lisa.

.He is genuine....He is not looking for a Visa or ticket to leave Morocco....infact once marriage was discussed, i was given the option to live in his country but I have a great job and my kids have their school and father here..

Getting a visa is a nasty little marriage scam, but it's not the only one, oh no, no, no, Lisa! He could be looking for a second wife, he could be looking for a Western woman just to brag to his friends, or he will marry you and then get a Moroccan wife and shower her with his love while you are the maid and occasional sex relief.

.I am divorced of 4 years....I have all the trust in the world for my Moroccan man.....This one is handsome, sweet and if you could only see the love in his eyes for me when we are talking and he is listening and he is glowing with love. and his happy smiles tells all....

Yeah, my myspace woman was all glowing too at the shopping mall and on webcam. It's when we were alone that the fights and arguments started. Honestly, Lisa, this is an old, old story here.

I'm sure he looks good on cam, but here's the real question: Can you feel his touch, kiss his lips, witness his timing, hold his hand, test him under the pressures of a real date? Can you reach for your coffee up at the same time?

The answer is a simple, straightforward no.

He has the best character....He loves me as much as i do him....we will not meet til November and we are so excited....I am considered an attractive woman and I will not trade this wonderful man for any American or any man from another country....S

Well, you're going to think differently if this doesn't work out, which it probably won't. What is happening here, Lisa, is utterly ridiculous. You come on here and pledge your love for a man you've never even met? After all the things that we have been saying over the last two years on here?

I can certainly understand your attraction to him and I don't doubt it. You can say you like him more than American men or whatever, that's ok, but the reality is most people will end up marrying someone from their own country, religion and ethnic group, and relationships with similarities have a much better success rate despite the old addage "opposites attract."

However, Lisa, this is clearly not for real. Even if he isn't scamming you or lying, which is very likely considering the

quick marriage, talking about marraige without even meeting him

age difference

falling in love on-line

telling you all sorts of positive things

And have you asked him probing questions? If so, did he get mad and defensive?

All the arrows point to a broken heart for you.

My advice is to leave this man, and stop all communication with him. I would start by not talking to him as often, and uninstall AIM or whatever you use if you have to.

I'm sorry Lisa, but when these things happen, it's no one's lucky unless it's the perpetrator you are with. There's people like that all over the world, and it doesn't matter how nice you make your story on here or if you sign your name to make yourself feel good. Your emotions and feelings do not change this situation at all.

---

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".