Another man-defense post by a Western woman based on limited experience and limited travel???? "the love can happen everywhere" excuse

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Sep 24, 2008 at 01:20

Thanks for your contribution, but I have a feeling it's going to be a one-time deal.

Now on to the matter at hand:

I have been reading through some of the statements in which some people have been writting, and most of all I am absolutely disgusted with the head title, that Non-Muslim women (turkish) should marry a muslim man.

What you ought to be disgusted about, Kimberly, are the stories on here. It's fairly evident from your post that you really haven't read much past the titles.

The reality is, cultural differences matter. Even in the country you live in, people who look and think and believe alike marry one another and live next to each other. The left will never admit it, because the reality is their dream of mixing everyone up (even by force) is making things worse on many levels (ie increasing rape in Europe).

Maybe you don't care as long as it's not you....or a Turkish man, apparently.

It is absoulutely apalling to read things like this, to me love is love and nothing or no one can change the fact that you fall in love.

Love is love? That is an insufficient argument to say the least. Many relationships on here are based on appearance, looks, youth, apparently proving one is not racist or islamophobic and, naturally, the usual implied deals regarding money. All the while not being able to see the person--at most, a few times a year.

Yeah, that sure is love alright. The only real difference is you can get all that w/o the heartache in certain hotels in the Middle East & North Africa or at the Bunny Ranch.

When I went to turkey, I couldnt believe my eyes I have met some of the most nicest people, friendly, out-going and polite,

You won't find very many Muslims or Turks on here. The ones who do post, though, mostly represent VASTLY different views than liberal Western women who play these "look at me I'm tolerant" contests that appear on topix, or the "I love my man because he's X ethnicity, comes from Y country, and is Z religion, and by gosh, you had better agree with it or you're a racist, islamophobic ethnocentric b****d!, as religio-poltical commentator Pat Condell would say.

Have you ever noticed that, though? Ever noticed how Muslims in happy relationshps aren't on here or looking this stuff up on-line? Ever noticed how it's always Western women who defend the scamming, scheming men on here? NOT the Turkish or Moroccans or anyone else? Several of them have said they are ASHAMED by this intercultural dating and the farces of relationships on this board.

It's worth noting, too, a lot of locals in the Second and Third World are given incentive in certain places to be nice to the tourists from the West. So, people may not be as friendly as they feel.

I have also seen some fine looking men, and many girls from other countries out with them...

Of course! To paraphrase Steven Colbert: I have a Turkish man, and so can you!

Fine looking men, well, there you go! That's what you want to base a relationship on! How a strange man walking down the street looks!

"Many"? Really? So, you can just tell by looking at them? And you're on here lecturing us about our references to Turkish men? Do you not realize that many Turks fit the Caucasian racial classification scheme, you know, the one race that many Western liberals and man-defenders here resent out of white guilt?

Also, can you please show were "lots" of other girls come from to date Turkish men, because when last I looked, people were LEAVING the country, and I should point out that most on-line and travel dating caters to American, German, and British men .I also don't see lots of visas being issued out this side of the pond.

I know that may kind of bursts the insinuated Turkish man superiority complex that frequently comes with man-defense posts, but reality is reality, and love with logic is no love at all but a delusion and a waste of time.

You know, I've seen these kinds of posts all the time. For all the women on here who defend their man, the first thing you need to ask yourself is

a) Why are you even on here---or even looking for this on-line (probably because you're not sure, are you?)

b) Are you so arrogant into thinking that you're going to change people's minds about their personal feelings towards someone who has gouged them

c) This really is something you have to experience to appreciate. Sounds to me like you might on that path even as I write this, kimberly.

d) Note that instead of defending Western liberal women, these men are sitting in a computer center making bets on who can get one of you with your glorious "education" and all to say I LOVE YOU.

Note also that while you defend them on here, they are probably off cut and pasting the e-mails Lisa posted to other women.

Is this "love" kimberly, or am I missing something?

know for a fact that turkish girls hate this because they never smile and are always sad, and give you funny looks wen your with a turkish guy, or is it just that they believe that no one from outside of the country that they live in should date a turkish man,

It makes me feel sick that people can pass remarks upon this. I also believe that turkish girls hate to see turkish guys taking advantage of other non-turkish girls, or admiring them,

I think that in many cases, these feelings are normal. I'll even go further and say they are biological and came from evolution. Living things want to protect their own DNA, it's as simple as that, and no amount of multiculturalism or "tolerance and diversity" will buck that trend anytime soon.

Ironic, isn't it? How those who make the argument for intercultural dating don't recognize that tiny detail, as many also believe in evolution?

Man, I could talk about this all day!

the turkish girls obviously hate this simply because they are so caught up in the culture/religion they are fridget, not that theres anything wrong with that.... just to stress my point across!!! Love is love.

This is contradictory to what you said before. It's also evident at this point in your post you did not read what people wrote. The women on here resent Turkish men because they were HURT by them.

They probably don't like the culture shock and feel they are a better fit. In some cases, they see Islam as superior to Western secularism, one reason why it will diminish this century.

..I mean we all live in the same world, breath the same air,

That's the problem. We don't live in the same world, and that is ideal nonsense. If you have traveled, you would know that the world is vastly different, a mosaic of different cultures

experience the same feelings and thoughts, it dosnt matter to me i dont think it should to anyone else... just because of what others believe in.

There are even differences in the Islamic religion. Some Muslim men feel it's okay to beat to your wife, others wouldn't even dream of it. Have the same thoughts and feelings? Based on what? That it takes a man and woman for a child to be born? That being nice will get you farther in life?

The problem with that argument, kimberly, is that it's too general for a much too complex situation.

Your argument has been heard many times before, kimberly.

It seems to me that you are either personally involved with a Turkish man, or you're just trying to prove how tolerant you are. Feel free to correct the record, but that is my impression, and this sounds like a hit-and-run post anyhow.

The real question I have for is: How would you feel if Turkish women came into your country and dated men of your race and religion?

I'll bet even a small part of you wouldn't like it.

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