Sounds like you had fun Lisa

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Dec 15, 2008 at 22:12

Then again, so has pretty much every other woman who has done the same thing you have. My response is as follows:

I read this blog and followed some of it and even posted detailsof my 10 month relationship as you all know. I was even warned to end my relationship for no apparent reason other than the fact he was Moroccan and we met on-line, and since I was older it must be red flags.

Yes, that is correct, Lisa, and you were warned and with good reason. Being older than your man, meeting him on-line and getting engaged before you even met him are all definitive red flag warning signs whether your man is Moroccan or not. So, I guess you can stop playing the nationality card.

He did not accept money from me nor ever hinted wanting money and he is not from a poor family nor looking for a Visa. Luigi has had bad experiences and there are scammers but for him to post or say EVERYONE of these men are scammers is very wrong and not fair....

As far as money goes---they rarely ask for it directly. Interesting how you say "he did not accept money from me." I wonder if this meant that you offered him money and if so, why did you do it?

If he wants to marry you without even meeting you and has a "lawyer" talk to you over instant messenger, he's looking for something and I seriously doubt it's a lifetime with you.

Yes, I have had bad experiences, then again, most people who date on-line do.

I've never said that EVERYONE of "these men" (whoever that refers to) are scammers. I have said that once you weed out the scammers, you still have your "normal" pool of liars, cheats and thieves. And once you whittle those out, there are the cultural differences.

So, Lisa, as you can clearly see, there is much more reason for your relationship to fail than just a silly ol' visa.

I read several statements I found from Traveling to Morocco to not be true.....First, I read you must be covered and men make the women cover out of severe jealousy...not true for Morocco.Its a preference..infact only about 5-10%

Yeah, that's not accurate, and I do not think you read that on here. Morocco is conservative in some areas, but in others it is very secular. My acqaintance from Morocco is like that. She likes to dress up in Western fashion and always seems to want approval from others on how she looks. Just a typical 20 year old.

..how many times has Luigi even posted that us women are drawn to the melanin in the skintones of these men? My Fiance skin coloring is almost as white as mine so not always true...And he states repeatedly that Luigi is not interested in woman 30 more less 40 well he is not from Morocco...

It does not matter than I am not from Morocco. Men there do not have radically different ideas when it comes to age, regardless of what your man, his father or other posters on here have told you.

And Lisa, I have said before that many Moroccans are Caucasian. I think you need to stop misrepresenting my posts because you are really starting to make a fool out of yourself.

These men are taught that age is not the utmost concern if you love someone. I discussed this issue with my Fiance's dad who is very Muslim and religious and I discussed issue with sister about not being able to give him children...she said children are not his wish and he would be just as good with my kids.

Oh, so YOU can speak for all Moroccan men and I cannot?

Wake up, Lisa! There are so many holes in your story, it's not even funny.

Luigi is expressing his point of view and can't speak for all men on many of these subjects..

No, but I can clearly see that this relationship is not going to work out.

.I just visted Morocco and stayed two weeks with my Fiance in his sisters home....This was a wonderful family.....I can't speak for all Moroccan families or other cases cause this family has money. The sister's home we shared together she moved out and rented it but also told me my next trip we would not have to pay her anything cause I am family and her home is my home....She cried when we said good byes....She bought my daughters both a gift for me to bring back to states.....another sister went in with the mom and bought me a departing gift...Moroccan silver tea platter and tea pot/kettle so I can make mint tea like she showed me so I can make it for her son once he is in the states....I was invited to family home for Couscous and a few other trips and the sisters home for a family dinner. ..The mom tried to teach me Arabic as well as young nephew of 8 years..Two sisters are married to Doctors and have very wealthy homes. No one asked me for anything but my time and enjoyed my company and was over joyous to meet me and was relieved to know I would be good for the brother/son and I made him happy.....They all thought I was beautiful and My Fiance cooked for me...served me breakfast in bed every morning with fresh made fruit juice made in blender and we took beach walks and rides. I was introduced to every friend in this small town as his fiance...his lawyer friend went to lunch with us bought us lunch did some legal advice and help for free...took pics of us by the beach.....one night while eating seafood....one of the nicer cops of town came over (a frnd) sat down and knew a little english and he let me know I had a very gentle caring man...

Oh, for sure Lisa! They are definitely crazy about you!

Whenever someone is trying to get something they want (ie SELL something or get someone to buy into something) they are always nice. Just like how vacation ownership and timeshare seminars down south give you freebies to come and take their tours and then once you are there, you are there for over 3 times the amount of time they told you and they are rude to you if you do not buy anything.

This is how it always starts out, Lisa. Your relationship beginning (note to readers: Lisa's relationship is really just starting out because she just met her man, yet she refers to him as a fiance. I've actually seen this type of thing before, when I was dating my myspace woman, she had a friend she met on-line in Ohio and she decided to "marry" this man from France before they even met. But, I think she had a step up on our dear Lisa here because she called him her husband, not fiance...lol....)

When driving he would hold my hand and changing gears he would place hand on his leg. He always wanted me touching him.....he was proud to be seen out with me and is sad I had to leave....I will be returning in March..translated for his sisters

I'm sorry to hear that, and I understand that translating was going on? Oh boy, communication barrier at its finest.

They wanted to know what my first impression of brother was...was he evereything I expected him to be...if I was scared traveling....how I like Morocco...how long Brother and I been seeing one another......They loved the love story of it the meeting and taking chance on happiness and love.

I'm sure they support him entirely in whatever it is (not matrimonial love) he's after.

They had great respect and admiration for me by taking my chance with my love for him.....

I have no doubt, just not for the reasons you think.

There are some good people in Morocco and I was very comfortable with my fiance..

If you are so comfortable and secure, why are you on here writing these 1000+ word essays and referencing me all the time, hm?

Good people in Morocco? Yeah, I'm aware of a few, it's just the good ones are not on-line looking for social attention and least of all love.

.M'hammed...I had young children at home and I hated leaving this man....He is so caring.....I took very little money so we went through my money running for two weeks trying to do paperwork for our marriage and he then spent what he had and borrowed some from the lawyer friend....He just wants to be happy as I do and we both have patience and care deeply about one another and yes he is 32 and I am 42 but all his friends told us I look more of 36 and he is fine with my age and not embarrassed by it and we have fun and communicate well and we miss just cuddling in bed watching soccer together....

Do you really think that this scenario is all the different from anyone else's on here, Lisa? ALL of these scamming, scheming, fantasy relationships start out like this. Mine did.

.Ladies all these men are not bad.

Sorry! The chances of finding the good ones on-line are slim to none. They are too busy with more important things that internet attention or playing "let me see if I can stump Luigi!"

I met some wonderful people and men there and also a lady who was on plane from Morocco to New York went to another city to hang out with Moroccan tour guide friends and no she has no interest in any of them but loves the kindness of thsee people and plans vacations every year to spend time with them.....

How do you know that woman is wonderful, Lisa? Because you rode on the plane with her? How do you know she's not a con artist or something? Are you really that naive and trusting? Apparently so since you are all wound up about my posts and this pseudo-love you have for this Moroccan man.

Just a little footnote, Lisa: in the travel industry, people are nice, but it by no means definitively reflects thier true feelings for their clients. You should hear some of the things my coworkers say about the snobbish elite that come to our resorts and can't have their toes cold. Think they tell them that to their face? NO! Why? It's bad for business!

Don't let all here scare you but do ask yourself if its real if he is hinting for money or mean or nasty with you....My vacation pictures can be viewed at myspace.com search for Lisa Wallace or myspace.com forward slash mirrorimagephotosbylisa ....

Yes! We can all find real love on the internet and then talk about it on a blog or on myspace! That will make it all okay.

Psh, if you are reading this and are in a similar situation, WAKE UP! Nonsense has not hit the fan for Lisa, and it may not for months for years, but if I were a bettin' man, I would bet it would one of these days.

Thanks for reading all, and let's remember to keep it real.

-Luigi

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