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Nora--Negative or Positive, Facts are FACTS

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in response to reader comment: Nora--Negative or Positive, Facts are FACTS, whether we like it or not

Submitted by Nora Wimberley (United States), Dec 16, 2008 at 07:52

This response from you makes more sense. Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain. And for the most part you are right. But people in healthy relationships stumble upon this sites too, and once they read the half truths, the defending starts. That's just being frank about it. Sometimes they want to give people hope that there relationships can work. When someone writes a post here we only know what info they give us, it is not fair to assume. And it is not fair to pass judgment on a whole culture because of a few bad experiences. I will not say any culture is perfect, because all cultures have there good and bad. There is no advoiding it.

All we can do is get information out there and warn them it sounds a little weird and this is red flags it is scamming for money, visa, etc. And there is many misconceptions too with these international relationships. Things vary from culture to culture and even the beliefs in religion can vary from culture to culture. So if something happens to one person that was dating a eygptian for a example and wants to give advice to a woman dating a moroccan, it has to be taking half hearted. Because things in egypt is very different then in Morocco even though both is Muslims. I experienced this first hand.

For example, i have a friend from egypt and he could not believe me that woman in Morocco do not have to cover there heads while out in public, if they do not want to. I told him i could not explain why that was, only my fiance could and he did. But same goes in Saudi Arabia, the woman are covered and must wear black. My friend in Egypt thought that was very wrong, too. When you say facts are facts, be careful when addressing islam country's because there is big differences. Heck there is big differences between the Shites and Sunnies(spelling is not right). I believe your heart is in the right place and you are truthful and honest, but some of the things you have stated are not all true. I believe that is because I have been to Morocco and I have seen first hand some of these differences.

I do have things that make me think red flags with online dating, but it really differs from person to person. For example nigerians start putting, out sweet nothings and I love yous to feel you out if you are varnable to scam money, which is not much different then the visa scam. I think the best advice is to not rush into anything and even though Muslims don't believe in dating that a online relationship is different and needs time. Money scammers and visa scammers want to move quickly to get what they want.

But when a person refuses to, they move on to greener pastures. But then you have a different money scam i have seen with Moroccans. They promise love, but instead of inviting you to there country, they say no I will get visa on my own to come to you. Well when a woman does not know about the visa process they fall for this scam. And you start sending money to make there bank accounts look fat, for travel visa or work visa. But what woman do not realize is most honorable men well not take a woman's money. They believe that should be spent on the woman not giving to the man. Because men must provide for there family. Basic info like this should be giving out not the raw things like you are brainwashed, or when all else fails, you do not write good english.

I am not perfect and what does my english have to do with helping people in need. Also i am Humanitarian, i feel a over whelming urge to help people. Does not matter if it is to alert to a possible scam, to calm there over whelming hearts and minds to bitter information giving to them about international relationships. This all started with this concerned mother. And with the info she gave it does sound like a scam. But does this grown woman want to marry him on her own and is she pushing for marriage or is he pushing for it. That we do not know and it does make a difference.I mean is she pushing for another fast marriage to make up for her last bad marriage.

The whole online lawyer that is not good, but we do have internet at our fingers, and it seems easier to search online then go through a phone book and calling a lawyer. Men think logical and woman think emotional. That is why men can not figure woman out, and why woman get frustrated with men.

I know you have burned too, so i know where your passion comes from, that was clear from the beginning. Which is a subject you never touch on, even though i have brought it up every time i have responded to you. I am not so naive.

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14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
15The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
13I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
27Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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