Bribing in Morocco, Broken Heart, Feelings towards Western people, Muslim, visa

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Dec 18, 2008 at 13:44

Two hours ago, you wrote that you would not talk to me anymore until I did X and X that you think I have not done, and now you're writing to me. Let me guess: I wrote something so provocative that, that --umph!---you're going to come on here and show that Luigi whats right and wrong!
ha ha, I've had that happen before sooo.....

You thought wrong Luigi once again - the business is MY business and also none of your business. Your talent for presumption has failed you yet again. There is NO contradiction here.

Oh, of course! Silly me, NO ONE can question Isis, but she can come on here and lecture everyone else, especially men who date Muslim girls.

... This is what debate is all about Luigi - 2 different sides of the coin.

Well, it's not a terribly fantastic "debate". For one thing, you and the others who defend their relationship or their friends/relatives relationship do not directly answer my questions. That tells me there is something very wrong----on top of the fact that you need to run around the internet and tell everyone about your man's culture and defend him and it.

Until you have had the above listed experiences, please refrain from satisfying only your anger and bitterness towards the world.

LOL...sorry, no bitterness or anger here, but looking at your responses to some of the guys on here, I'd say that just because you did not have a happily-ever-after scenario with a Western man, you're the one who's taking her anger out on here, Isis.

Experience is what counts and from where I sit you have had none other than a sad experience with a woman you met on My Space.

Then I guess you really have not been reading what I write very carefully. That is what happens when you selectively read what I write on here for fear it might jump-start your intuition to tell you to leave the man you are seeing and that there are Western men in Australia who are just as romantic and handsome as he is if not more so.

If experience is what counts, then I'm a great voice on this forum, because I have had bad experiences with women from all over the world (I am well traveled, Isis) including Africa. In fact, I have relatives who lived on four different continents. The difference was that I did not follow through on the on-line relationships except with my myspace woman, but I have met other women I have met on-line in person. All of them were local girls though.

Re your employment - it seems to me that you change your profession to suit the site you are on as well as the race of your friends. Funnily enough if you use the same pseudonym "Google" will find you easliy enough. Miraculously, you now have friends who live in Morocco. I and others will find this hard to believe because it is obvious that you have had no physical experience in any middle east country

See above. .

I have stated a few times before this post that I have friends/acquaintances in Morocco and I have lived with an Egyptian man and an Iraqi man. So, in my view, that is a lot different than staying in luxury hotel or resort in the Third World.

Oh ho ho! So now you are googling me? Wow, Isis, that's kind of flattering in a way. Is your man boring you so much that you directing your energy towards me? Is it really that important to you to go to such length to discredit me?

I knew that when you asked the questions about my employment you were trying to trap me. Like I said, there is not much on the internet I have not seen.

My employment is exactly what I said it was. I worked in the enviromental sector for three different government groups, and now I am at uni and I work as a marketing agent. It is possible to have to two jobs, you know, and many Americans, well the ones who value hard work and not governemnt handouts, do have two jobs.

I realize that does not help verifiy your relationship, but did you find anything else out about me that you would like to share?

I suggest that whilst you are studying you should also study the science of debating as it will change your whole perception and the application of the subject.

Yeah, I know quite a bit about on-line dating and when I present the facts one of these scenarios happen:

1) The person I am talking to mutters an "oh" or shakes their head and shuts-up. It does not mean I've "won" because after they get over their defeat, they come back and shrug off what I say

2) They get all emotional and start calling me names---or in the case of this forum, tell me they would never date a stupid kid or an Ameican man like and how much more handsome their man is ect.----

Once you get emotional in a discussion, you've lost all credibility, because emotions are not based on the facts.

3) They attack the source of information if it does not personally suit them.

So, as you can see, Isis, what happens on-line and even on this forum are hardly good debates. In a debate, there is a winner and a loser.

And if I win, what does that mean? I should feel better about myself? It really just means that I am right and someone got used, screwed and/or abused.

So, I'm really just trying to help people wake up and see what is happening, because to this date, most posters are asking for or looking for advice. Sometimes they ask me directly, sometimes they ask someone else, sometimes they don't ask but I can tell from what they are sayiing they want the support.

Re bribing in Morocco - this is a far fetched accusation by you Luigi. These people are poor and the Government is poor and there is no room in their meagre budgets to bribe their citizens.

Much of the bribing does not come from the government ,althought its not immune, and Western governments actually have good reason to invest in Morocco.

Yep - the local bus driver in Casablanca probably will tell Broken Heart what he thinks of Americans and so will the Egyptian bus drivers in Sharm - nothing new here. Their comments are not aimed generally at Westerners but specifically at Americans -

That's not what brokenheart said, and I do not think she's an American. I do not know how you can generalize like that, but like I've been saying, you'd say anything and everything to convince yourself that your interaction with this fellow from Egypt is the real deal. That's what people who do this kind of thing end up doing, Isis, because they are just not sure, and I can tell by the mannerism of how you post, when you post and what you post that is precisely what you are doing.

You are not the first and you will not be the last.

and I am NOT American.

Nobody's perfect xD

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