Regarding Lina's selfishness and a new man-defense strategy exposed

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Dec 27, 2008 at 22:55

Hi Lisa, you're welcome. And yes, my Moroccan step-dad was definitely a positive influence in my life - more so than my natural father, lol!

Yes, and your pandering to him and your Egyptian boyfriend is becoming more and more vivid.

Are you ashamed of your non-Moroccan, non-North African heritage?

In fact, I think you're quite hypocritical for telling me about how you feel about on-line dating and now you're sucking up to Lisa.

If you were my daughter, I would be ashamed of you and very disappointed in you, Lina.

As for that troublesome sister, well my mother received some hostility from her husband's Moroccan family, but luckily their relationship was strong enough to surpass all that, and everything worked out fine in the end.

To what end, Lina? Marriage and children? That's not the finish line.

As long as you make each other happy, he has no issues with you having kids, and you get along with his parents, who cares what his sister has to say.

Now, be careful Lina, there are some families where crossing siblings will destroy your relationship, especially in more conservative ones.

Sisters don't have much of a role in Moroccan families anyway.

In traditional Muslim families, women do not. Nice use of the words sisters as you are being VERY careful to keep the idea of all the soon-to-fail relationships (such as your own).

When you're fully together you'll realize that nothing can come between you and your fiance, even though families are really close in Morocco.

Not all families are that close in Morocco. That is too general.

True love can defeat anything.

I really laughed at this. I've also heard this before. Very cliche. Most so-called relationships and marraige talked about on this board are NOT true love. Lisa's relationship will fail, and I will bet real money, Lina, your boyfriend is not the man you will marry.

My, how easily you are swayed, Lina. If Lisa from USA can impact the principles that yourself, Nora and Isis have bleated about on here for days now about on-line dating, I can only imagine what number of tricks your men are pulling on you.

Truth be told, I do not think you really care about Lisa from USA, or your advice and your posts would not be so contradictory.

Actually I've known a few Moroccan women like your fiance's sister... maybe that's why some Moroccan men are intimidated by them. Lisa, trust me, people in North Africa will gossip about the most banal things, to the point of ridicule! Whenever me and my Egyptian boyfriend were harassed, he used to curse at them in Arabic lol.

Cursing, huh? Oh yeah, My myspace woman did the same thing, and we all know happened there! Something else to think about, I guess, unless you are under the impression that Moroccans are superior to everyone else?

Would not be the first time.

Well, there will always be someone waiting in the bushes who tries to jump out and destroy a relationship lol. I myself have learned to ignore bitter comments, I just treat it like winning a Beauty Contest - they can come up with all the theories & general b!#chiness in the world, but in the end it won't make the haters any prettier haha.

I guess its too bad there are not any haters on here, and you and Lisa seem to afraid to name specifics. Sorry, Lina, but simple disagreements do not mean hate, and I do not think that a 42-year-old woman who sits on her computer exceedingly or a teenager can realize what real hate is. It's pretty easy to throw around the hate card, but the people who do it are the ones criticizing the moderators, editors, Dr. Pipes and have their posts edited so they make even less sense.

Really, Lina, your behavior on here is very predictable.

But just keep on telling yourself everything will work out and keep on "loling" yourself through it. I guess if it gives you the illusion that your and Lisa's relationship is real, well, I've seen other teenagers do that as well.

Oh, and Lina, for your own well-being and just so you know: If you had told the same principles you supposedly had to Lisa from USA, you would have received a very different response.

Overall, your fiance seems to be an honest man with a strong character,

Wow, that's pretty funny. Lisa told us that none of us on this blog canpossibly know her man, but I guess she'll make an exception here since you have betrayed your principles, Lina.

So, what do you say, Lisa? Do we have an exception to your little rule?

and I'm sure he really cares about you. You're both extremely lucky to have each other. You may have a long road ahead of you but I'm sure, it will have a good end.

I do not think you really believe that in your heart of hearts and I think that you are not even sure about your own relationship.

I think Virginia will have to reassess her opinion of you being able to "hold your own" as it were on here. There are some pretty big gaps here, Lina, but do not worry. I've been doing for a long, long time now.

I really hope you have the courage to stand by your initial principles, because if you cannot stand up to a woman who gets angry and defensive and if you fall for lenghty pieces on here, I do not see how you can confront your man when the times come and they will come, Lina. You are not in high school anymore and this is no longer a teenage game.

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