Response to Lisa from the USA

Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Dec 29, 2008 at 00:19

I think this is the same case for most women on here but hey you Met "SOON AFTER"..

Most of the women on here are dating internationally. And yes, Lisa, I did meet some women I met on-line soon after we initiated contact.

As you can see, those did not work out. Neither will your fling.

.I guess us women

Who's "us women"? Are you talking about Zella and Yasmin? Heaven help you if you are...

on here were more careful than you after all we all talked live cam several months or even a year before

Yeah, that explains the 3-month marraiges. Good call, Lisa.

Also, you can cam until you are blue in the face, but it will NOT repeat NOT help you know your man.

we went off and met in person our internet loves...But again its ok for you and not us idiot women right Luigi cause you did it 'soon after" so it is ok? Wow good advice maybe we are not pursuing our relationships Soon enough for you,lol....Now who is smart?

I would have hoped that would learn from my mistakes, but that is clearly asking too much for some of you.

As I explained to Nora, I do not have a problem with meeting people on-line, provided it is done in person and you recognize the situation for what it is and understand the dynamics of on-line communication which you and the rest of the relationship defenders do not, mainly because none of you have been burned on-line before.

You talk on MSN or cam all you want, but its the real time encounters that matter the most and will tell you the most. How soon you meet up is up to you, but I think that you and I both know, Lisa, meeting someone in Morocco is a lot different than the great state of Alabama, which I am sorry to say you are doing a poor job of representing on here.

No one has called you or anyone else an idiot, Lisa.

Do give credit to women though who have heeded the warnings on this blog.

You admitted in another post you made that you are still going off meeting girls you meet on-line Locally....But I guess this is different because it is YOU Our Smart Luigi who holds all the right answers.

Actually, I have not met anyone on-line recently. Most recent was a few months ago, and that was a girl who lives in the same city as me.

What I have, Lisa, is extensive experience. What you have are essays designed to confuse people using the logic that "because it is long it must be good and legit" That may work on Lina, but it will not work on me.

He is smarter than us Dummies on here...why cause he dated an 18 year old off Myspace who took him for a ride and he has so much experience now to give us all the insight in our own relationships

No, no, Lisa, the 18 yo and I met in person at a party, but her myspace habits were sickening. The "myspace woman" as I call her for the convience of the readers, we actually met on a dating site. Big mistake.

If you want to respond to me, great! But, please read what I say throughly so that you do not make mistakes.

And yes, yes! I DO have the experience to give insight. Trouble is in your case, Lisa, it's just not easy and not what you want to hear.

. I suppose that gives him more experience than us women on here being married for tweny plus years and raising sons his age,lol.

Your relationships/marriages have been constant, while the communication world has been evolving faster than it ever has, and you do not understand the dynamics of the internet, Lisa. If you did, you would listen to me much more carefully.

This forum is not about rearing children or the growth of a marriage, really because most of the relationships on here fail or have key indicators of failure. Not the ideal place for such discussion. Instead, it is about international dating scams, and yes, Lisa, you and this man are barely dating by any real world standards.

Interesting how you do not give Lina the same criticism. Can we say, double standard, Lisa?

You do not know her peers on Myspace or Facebook

Actually, Lisa, I do.

By peers I was referring to the general teenage audience, most of whom waste their time on these sites trying to convince themselves that people who live hundreds and thousands of miles away are their "friends". Either that, or they think they are so smart and have the all the answer that they join groups and blogs they do not agree with and try and convince others how wrong they are and how right the teens are.

Kind of like all of the defense posts on here.

so how can you judge her friends or make this comment? Its to undermine her intellegience I am sure and it shows....You are trying to discredit her and I think her intellegience bothers you cause she lets you know you are not always right!

No, but considering that I freely admit my mistakes I'd say I'm doing alright.

There is no judging on here either. If you have a problem with the "I hate Moroccan men-ish" comments, the few and far between ones from women on here, take it up with them...unless you don't have the guts to talk to them.

You live to insult

I tell it like its. You're not the first person to claim "insults" and "hate" over reasoned disagreement, as stated in the blog policy below.

And who is doing the insulting, Lisa? You're the one who chides me for being an inexperienced 27-year-old, but now you are defending an 18 yo? Why?

Because you and her agree. It's as clear as day, Lisa and just your stereotypical blog behavior.

and "Can't wait to see what others write you back" Its almost like this is the way you get your rocks off. Then you say everyone else is DEFENSIVE! What about you?

Easy: I'm not defending any of my former relationships. In fact, I'm using them to show you what can and will (in your case especially) happen.

I've never said everyone else was defensive.

Ordinarily, Lisa, I would just ignore your ranting, but I feel it is necessary to counter your posts and other man-defense posts for the sake of other readers.

If anyone says anything about you, you say careful or your post will be moderated.You can dish it but you can't take it as well

Somehow, I just think that if I could not take it, I would be blogging for all these years nor been on here for 13 months.

The moderators have made it very clear that vulgar insults and ad hominem attacks will not be tolerated. Just be grateful they let us say what we do and I actually think they are pretty lenient.

Illegitimate criticism of the editors of this page signifies to me some major desperation to prove me wrong, and I've seen that on here for the past two months now. Obviously, Lisa, this forum has some pretty signifcant influence on the lives of those who defend their or someone else's relationship.

Do you really think I do not see what the others have been doing? Reading my posts for months and coming out only when someone says "Luigi!" or the like? Being very careful not to reveal the details of their "relationship" for fear that myself or Yasemin, Zella, Hisham, SHADAE, anon1, Keri, or Jo Ann would be right?

...Its human nature in all of us...we are no different....I rather see a woman who writes how she feels than sit back and let a man like you walk all over her...Defensive or not.

If you feel like you are getting walked over in terms of the internet, then you've got some issues, Lina.

. Maybe its not the melanin in the skintones Luigi you are always ranting about....Ever consider that?

Well, what am I supposed to think when the word "interracial" keeps on popping up?

Yes, I have considered that, and the obsession and brownosing of Islam and Middle Eastern, North African and Egyptian culture is largely due to apperance which materializes itself in age, skin colour, hair ect.

It really is that obvious, Lisa, and yes, it is very shallow.

Maybe that is what bothers you the most about these men. The men have something you and others do not. Most know how to treat their women and what to give their women to keep them satisfied and if you and other men were doing what you needed too we women would not have to search so far away...hahaha...just kidding...

Well, leave me out of that because I would not consider a serious relationship with someone your age or someone who spends so much time on-line brownosing in their sig other's culture. If a woman I was with defended me like this, I would be quite concerned because as I have been saying all along: If you were secure and certain like you are trying to portray, you would be able to do it by example, not by coming on here and talking to total strangers.

Has it ever occurred to you, Lisa, that Lina, Virginia, Isis and the others may not actually have your best interests at heart? Or are you so entralled that they agree with you that you would NEVER question them!

Actually, there are plenty of nice guys here in America, Lisa, the trouble is they are too mopey. They'll get all the pity and attention from a woman, sure, but respect? Not a bloody chance. And respect is a cornerstone of relationships.

I did not go searching for far way but I am glad we found each other cause I would have never traveled outside of USA if I had not or found this wonderful man....

Yeah, right. Your on-line habits are pretty obvious, Lisa. I would say that Morocco is pretty far from Alabama.

but its not the melanin that has these women crazy over these men...They are romantic and know how to please.....oops ,maybe I am speaking from my experience.

YAWN....yeah, if you're trying to make me jealous, do not bother. I've heard all this before on this blog and other sites. If you want to brownnose Moroccans and talk about how great they are in bed, that's your decision. But do not come whining to me then when Muslims men from the Middle East refer to Western women as sluts, which they do in no small numbers.

You come on-line and brag about it and, you wonder why you do not get respected.

Sorry, Lisa, I'm not going to make a brave stance on here for Western men. Your little trap to try and get me all worked up did not, well, work.

If these men are so great, why is that divorced women or women who have been in long-term committed relationships did not just find them in the first place?

Why did they pick Western men to marry first?

If they are truly wondrous, why doesn't our country give out more visas to them, eh? Have you seen the State Deparment reports? I almost laughed when I saw how many Moroccans are let into this country every year, especially when you consdier our excellent political relations. I do not suppose you came across that in your "research" now, huh?

Also, if these men are THAT great, where are all the Moroccan/Egyptian/Tunisian/Turkish women? Why don't they come on here and defend their marriages and talk about their intimacy and bedroom life, hm? Even with the smallest hints?

Help me to understand that one, since you've all traveled and what-not.

You analyze all my posts I make to others so I thought I would this post....Sorry if you don't like me blurting in. Oh well you will get over it like the rest of us.....

Doesn't bother me any. Actually, it just strengthens my stance, so have at it, Lisa. Before you know it, you'll be talking to me more than you talk to your man, if you aren't already. You might even grow to like me xD

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