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Ohhh thanks lugiReader comment on item: Advice to Non-Muslim Women against Marrying Muslim Men Submitted by Nora Wimberley (United States), Dec 29, 2008 at 10:26 Thanks for taking the time and breaking this down for me. You are right we argee about 75% of the time. Well since you broke this down for me i will take the time to break some things down for you too, since i do not have to work today. The successes are also overwhelmingly in favor of people who live in proximity, ie the same country and have a lot in common. They are not lazy about it and to some degree figure out that on-line dating is NOT easier BUT harder than real-life dating. Ok about this, on-line dating is hard. Because the distance is hard period. But it gives you a opportunity to get to know a person without lustful feeling getting in the way. That is saying is both party's is not having fun with the cam. In todays dating both couples get to be around each other and even have sex before marriage, then lust becomes a issue. Lust is not love and i think you would agree on that. One thing on-line dating lets you do is not let lust be a factor. So if both people are genuine there is a chance of love forming not lust. Many young people confuse lust with love and then marry and then divorce. Honestly Lugi what are your chances of meeting a single woman that has not been married at your age now. Anymore in europe and the states woman at 24 have mostly been married and divorced. So tell me how these charming men can meet someone who is not divorced. 2) What about moving to your man's country? Does that eliminate a scam? NO! Assuming that down the road the man does not change his mind and wants to move to your country instead, there are whole host of other problems. Usually when a woman moves to there guys country that is it with the money, and they know it. So going to there womans country is almost none exsistened, unless there ladies family is willing to sponser there man. And most chances is, family is not willing too. Hisham Zein told us about a phenomena known as the "baby racist". What he is referring to is a biological trait that has been created/evolved in living things (including us) where we will protect and defend our own genetic code AND the most similar organisms that resemble this genetic code. I'm sure , for example, that you would feel much worse if a baboon were butchered as opposed to say a bacteria dying from antibodic remedies Ok i am not going to say this don't exsist. But you are getting at that these men can not love the womans former children, right. And there for will not treat them the same as there own children.. All the stuides done about how racism and sexism and ageism are "learned" behaviors in Western universities DOES not reflect what Hisham talked about. That's just poltically correct nonsense that is plaguing our soceity. Racism and sexism is over rated. Learned bahaviors, no they are not. Something different and things we do not understand causes fear. A result of fear is racism and sexism. Now you are can teach your own fears in your children. I can say having children is like a big science experiment. I seen my children develop there fathers fears. He had never flown before and was afraid, he alway went on about airplanes crashing and bombings, and running out of gas. When i went to Morocco my kids begged me to not fly to take a boat or something else. But i told them firmly NO, I am flying to Morocco, You will see that your father is not always right. Me going to Morocco and comeing back has clamed my childrens fears about flying because the things there father told them they now know is not true, but does happen on occasion. He also instelled his fear of lighting in the kids. The kids are now learning about nature and the cause and effects. I believe education is very important, have something you are not sure about learn about it and stop fearing the unknown. Also, many women have pointed on here that some of the men who are "dating" the women on here are already married and are looking for an extra wife to do the dishes, mop the floor and the occasional sex fling with a woman who is, well "different." Ok most of these woman i have seen claiming this, there husbands are from Turkey. And i have talked to men from Turkey , Egypt, India, Sir Lanka, Pakistan, Algeria, and Morocco. And i would be the first one to tell you that each country is different, in culture , beliefs and religious beliefs. But i know this because i have talk to many men and woman from these country's. And no I did not talk to them for love, i was talking to them as friends and learn about there country's and the way they believed. Yes now these man can not make woman friends they will say ok friends and then they say i am loving you. But I learned alot . I learned the differences in the beliefs systems of shites and shunnies. Now the more extreme and political Shittes believe in the old teachings and extremist. Where the Shunnies is more laid back and consider more of a orthodox element. Now the closer to Meca the more Shittes you run into. Even though only 10% of Muslim population is Shitte. But i have observed and this is my opnion and only my opinion that Turkey is more of a shitte belief. Since the most horrifying stores seem to come from this country. Now any peron is capable of comeing up with a scam. As it has been stated that maybe some Moroccan families have done this, but as far as i have read we have not proved this yet. Of course i am still trying to read all the post on here and you can correct me if you want. Egypt is very strict in there religious beliefs too. As all muslim women have to wear the head covering. Morocco is more leaned back, and it is women choice. So my egyptain freind could not understand that. My guy explained it to him. But my egyptain friend could not understand why woman in saudia arabia must be covered in all black, as he thinks that is wrong. So that goes to show, these country's differ very much in the same beliefs. I think you advising people is great Lugi your compassion is amazing. And i think you will make a great husband one day. You have qualities that a woman would enjoy and treasure. And on top of that you are always learning. But as you learn and desirer to advise woman and other people. You should learn that culture differences and religious beliefs are as different as night and day in each country. And one horror story does not effect the next person. Each experience should be tooking in and learned from, and take there warning signs so we can advise, on a collection of advidence. I continue to say we should take the warning signs and put them together. That way we can say here this is starting to sound like another experience another woman had and here is the warning signs she had. Give the warning signs with compassion. Then these ladies can do with what they want, after we give advice, and if choose to ignor it then give the horror stories. I think there is anough ladies here with enough experiences that we can take different scams and put together the warning signs that was there that was not seen at the time. And put together a great scam warning. And that would be more helpful then woman saying you are in dream land , and run , and personal attacks. What do you think??? The Science is there. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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