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Response to Lisa USA---General BloggingReader comment on item: Advice to Non-Muslim Women against Marrying Muslim Men Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Mar 11, 2009 at 22:16 Luigi first of all YOU ARE ASSUMINg way too much! Lisa, I make reasonable deductions based on the following: a) Time spent on this blog, namely debating me, a person you've never even met, about your, ahem, "relationship". b) What is said in the posts c) What people are trying to say in the posts d) What people do not say in the posts. That is how blogging works in a nutshell. My first impression of him at the airport was not Oh this man is Beautiful..... No, I bet your first impression of him was that he was good-looking in his photos which is a big reason why you pursued this, isn't it Lisa? It's really quite okay, you can be honest with me. I have been with more attractive men right here in the USA. I am attracted to Mohammed because of the way he respects me and everyone around him. We are good together and I don't mean in the sack. That is how it all starts. I look at what is inside someone. I am not attracted to outer beauty! Yeah, right, Lisa! Try and fool someone else with that one, because it won't work on me. I've seen research on this, and believe me, women DO care about looks more than you're willing to admit. I don't eveb care that he is poorer than the US men.....It has nothing to do with him being different....I look at him like a MAN...a simple man! Yup, I've heard that before too. Why is it wrong in your eyes he keeps in touch with family while in USA? Im sure Rosie also kept in touch daily as well with her family via the net, but it is wrong for him too? No one said it was wrong. Just understand what it is and what it could be--ie a conspiracy for him to use the relationship as legal status to send money to his family, that being his chief motive, not love. Oh, I'm sure all the sex and making out is nice, but for him, it often comes as an added bonus :) Again, Luigi...common sense will tell you when you are away from home you miss your life back home and Rosie has stated several times on this board she missed her family and home so no, I did not assume anything. All I said was if its ok for Rosie to communicate via internet to family members, her new husband has that right too without been ridiculed over it. Maybe I like to to treat others fairly and you have a one-sided opinion-YOURS! No, you just like to spend your time off writing long-winded essays defending your relationship and making Moroccan men look good. You're not the first. The reality is Lisa, I have good reason to be critical and concerned of people who feel the need to blog incessantly about his/her relationship to complete strangers. why does everything have to be about sex and good looks with you? As Isis is so fond of mentioning, I'm not in a relationship with an Egyptian man or anyone internationally. Been around that block before, Lisa. The reality is from what people say and what they don't say, it's so plainly obvious that they skirt around that most of the so-called "relationships" on here are really flings. I'm not surprised really, because Western European and American men have been scouring the Third World for cheap sex for decades, a service which they will provide too I might add. With the degradation of the sound, chilvarious behavior of the Western male in stereotypical terms, the fact that in our country the Caucasian male--the largest male demographic in America--date interacially and interethnically more than women, and with there being more women in the world than men, I am not surprised that more women are also seeking matets outside of their traditional race, religion and country. Naturally, since the women generally react to men and follow thier lead in dating patterns, it is not surprising that many flings are occuring with men in Third World countries. Come to think of it, older women and younger men hooking up is becoming more and more common and less taboo, but it rarely amounts to a solid, healthy relationship. Internationally, the men are willing, and are handsome and young. Very appealing to a lonely divorcee with kids and entirely understandable, as it is a normal desire. But don't take my word for it. See some of the other testimonies on here for yourself, Lisa. We are talking about Rosie and the women in agreeance with allowing the husband to send some money back home to help family if in need and both parties agree....I see you have missed me and you feel the need to argue so you want to turn everything into how you want to perceive things. I do not miss people on this blog. I dispense advice and comments in logical, orderly manner and call out bad behaviour when I see it, which happens all to often on blogs. By comparison to other places, this site is most civil, even with your ravings. And I believe the section I was referencing was about you, not Rosie. At least she has enough to dare ask the question "is this real" which is more than I can say for you, Lisa. Some Muslim men marry prostitutes and then divorce them for the sake of good old sex Not all Muslim men are religious as well Luigi, but i thought an Intelligent man as yourself would have known this. Some also claim to be religious too that are not faithful to the religion I do and have elaborated on this several times. Just like you have your ones here claiming to be Christian and may go to Church every Wed and Sunday but come saturday they are in the clubs partying and drinking....Does this make them a True Christian? Again, Luigi I said "the faithful and religious muslims" and you said muslims...not all muslims are into islam.....some do not even have a faith and I said "SOME" You aren't very likely to find "faithful and religious" people in the good sense you mean over the internet. Muslims or otherwise. YOUR WORDS LUIGI NOT MINE...I NEVER SAID HE WAS FLAWLESS! DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH With all the energy you put into this blog working long hours and talking to your man ( I assume this is the case), it was not an unreasonable conclusion, but I thank you for your clarification. All I ever said was he was a good man, has a good family, and they are all respectful in the community and city...and no i didn't get this info from the net....i saw it first hand and even found this out through different police and offices while i was there doing our paperwork on the last visit. Those individuals may not know him all that well and you have visited your man once. Hardly conclusive, Lisa. Furthermore Luigi, I am tired of you saying I don't care about these other women's feelings....I am sorry they were volunerable and trusting and found bad men that cheated and lied to them. They have a right to be angry, but they should not make postings on a public board and say ALL these men are like this... It's what people do on blogs, Lisa. Theirs is just expressing anger. I don't think the couple of posts on here saying ALL Muslim men are bad were done with much thought, and I wonder if they truly believe that. They've been down that road before, you have not. But it sounds like you'll get your chance. Yours is defending irrational and dangerous behaviour. There's a difference. Besides, I don't see you confronting them. You're much to busy trying to convince me what you have is real. Good luck with that. .They can't speak for all men. A huge chunk of these relationships don't work out. There are good reasons for that. You're just making excuses and rationalizing that now so that you can feel about what you have. Not a good sign, Lisa. They can esaily get their point across without making false statements and getting too much into peoples private lives by insinuating false statements So can you and Isis, but I guess if you're defending a man on here, you can say whatever you want? And if your problem is with them (whomever that is), then take it up with them! I've already told you that, Lisa! Complaining to me directly isn't likely to get that accomplished. when you are not God and know what lies ahead with any of these relationships. You don't have to be God to know the end result of a quick marriage to someone you've met a few times a few months apart and talk to on-line. There are a few good ones and from time to time you have even posted this fact. So why is it fair you have the select few on here who have an agenda make these postings knowing there are women who come here and read these postings. Is it fair to put doubt in the good relatiionships minds and destroy what they may have by instilling a lot of doubt? I don't really see any good relationships on here, so that's kind of a moot point. Probably because people who are in good relationships are too busy enjoying each other and raising their kids and could not care less what I think. There is simply no need of it. You are on the outside looking in from reading postings, you can't possibly know what we or others are feeling that have found the good ones and it is simply unfair to them... But I have and I can. I can determine from the tone of posts, whether they are edited or not and how I am addressed (ie LUIGI!!!) a range of emotiions and I am experienced enough with both writing and blogging to know to subtly and carefully read between the lines. Were I not so effective, you would not be so worked up and keep writing me these long essays mixed with capital letters and broken sentences and bold paragraphs. Quite difficult to read with all that, but I managed :) ..Im not taking up for the bad ones! They deserve all these women dish out on them, but it is unfair to hurt innocent people! Don't you think? Also to put down their religion just because they are Islam and not Christian views.....'Freedom of Religion" Right? You're doing it again---playing the victim for Islam. Not agreeing with Christians converting to Islam or exposing scammers who are Muslim and bad men who are Muslim is NOT putting down Islam! They damage the rep of Islam much more than I am! If you're so gung--ho on freedom of religion, ask your man how he would feel if one of his sisters or female cousins married a Catholic from Portugal, converted to Catholicism, had seven kids and raised them ALL Catholic! 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