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Submitted by Stephanie (United States), Jun 10, 2009 at 19:06

Hi anon1...I am not with him. I was hoping that was clear in all the things I have written and I would never be stupid enough to fall again but I really appreciate this site. It is clear to me that everything that happened with the man I knew was just all lies.

It is still hard for my mind to comprehend how anyone can be so good at lying. I also realize these men will say you are the kindest creature, say total words of love...even go to the point of crying to convince you of their sincerety and love. They tell you ...you have a white heart...and so many other things just to convince you that somehow you are different or more special than all the rest. To me these men are stealing...and dishonoring what they represent. What is the council in the Quran for stealing? These men have two faces. The one that makes them seem like they are the kindest man in the world and the other that makes them seem like the Devil. Usually the latter is never seen until it is too late. One might think that "Devil" is a strong term but when you personally have gone through these things then you can only understand and somehow these men are really evil. They prey on the compassions of women and these Arab countries think these women might be stupid but the truth is, what they do is just almost unheard of here. Most women just don't realize how these men can do this. It's not that they are stupid, it's just not in their culture, their heart to be so bad. The women are gullible though but believe me they learn. These men take the hearts of these women...they take everything these women have, their possessions, their entry to getting greencards, they play on their weaknesses and know how to cause them pain. They use their loving kindnes, their faith in humanity...and they make them feel like sluts, they lie and lie to them, most tend to be mean to them and they make all these promises creating women to truly trust in them. The women are left confused because when she start seeing things that she doesn't feel are right ...she might be given the line: "how can you really doubt my love for you...and this and that" or told she always just listens to others and what they say( that makes her feel guilt...see this site:) lol...or if he is getting tired of her and tired of her trying to talk with him about it he will just leave her alone for awhile. As time goes on, he will go for days and eventually everything becomes very clear to the woman but then she is in denial. They are really incredible at deceiving. It just blows your mind at what they can do. Do they go to some special learning school to figure out their techniques? How do people learn to be so cruel? They fill every ounce of this woman's life with deception and lies and then at the end the woman is left with her mind spinning wondering how, why, was anything at all true and sad...so so sad. You know how it is wondering if if he will ever even remember you later after he has destroyed so many other lives.... It's just very confusing. To the Muslim women and men from these other Arab countries that have judged women that reverted and regarded them as women not as good as you. Remember that a woman who chose Islam, reverts because she was searching for truths usually and this should show she has Allah's direction to you. She didn't just accept it from having her whole family in it and being made to be in it because she was born into it. Yes there are some that revert because they just love and but most take their faith too seriously to just revert for a man. Still some do I know but alot of women searched even before she met this man, she changed her whole life. Alot of times she searched for the man because of her change. Alot of these women lost their whole family and friends because of their choice to revert. She made true and deep sacrifices in regards to her faith. She actually should be upheld as a great example so I am confused on why these women are berrated . In Western society, when a woman gives herself to a man and shares everything she is or has, it is a gift of love. It shows this man what a wonderful woman she is and how committed she is to him. Also if she was raised a Christian and reverted, she was taught from birth that when you marry the two become as one person, meaning what is hers is his and what is his is hers. These thoughts just don't dissappear even when someone reverts. Sometimes it's embedded in the heart. She has changed yes...but...it is just how she is. To both men and women in these other Arab countries, they confuse this way as a weakness and being pathetic. Men here know if they screw up and use women in this way women learn and will never trust or be so giving again. Men also know not to take their women for granted or they may lose that beautiful heart that was given to them in the first place. There is a huge cultural differences between these countries. In these Arab countries, if she does this for a man...it is look at as a way to control and disrespect someone snce he can always just divorce and marry another. I always wonder how they can lie so easily and never develop a soft heart seeing the eyes of the faces of these women they have destroyed. We know in Islam divorce is not a bad thing ...and a Muslim man can marry up to four wives and have these Mutah marriages on the side. It makes a man seem weak to me if he does this because he is given the choice either to keep running from his problems when he takes these other wives or face what he started and really make something good work. We all know that everyone has problems in marriages and even after a few years the passion that once existed won't be as strong. Sometimes it won't exist at all especially in arranged marriages. Some divorces are unpreventable but some are done just because people lose that passion or feel bored. It happens with both men and women and so a person can choose to remember the person they fell inlove with at the beginning and work at it to make their own passion together again. That is why they say marriage takes alot of work:) or... they can fail. These men seem to never figure that out. Each time when it gets tough he can marry another woman, never realizing that the intense passion will go with that next woman and the next..and the next within a short time and he will never feel fully satisfied. What creates real love is peserverance, our struggles together and mutual respect as a couple. What I notice with people married for like 20 years is they usually love the crazy things about their mate that ticked them off at the beginning and rubbed them the wrong way. What woman can even respect a man that needs so many women to feel like a man? He seems inconsistent and unpleasable. As for Mutah marriages, For Western society all this basically sound like is having a prostitute around whenever he wants on the side. The human compassion...where did it go from these men? Why weren't they ever taught to be kind to others from birth? They really give themselves and their country a bad name. Eventually all women will just run from them thinking they are the lowest creatures in the world. This is what they are creating for themselves by doing what they do. This is what the man I knew made in me and in the end my mind keeps questioning how can these men ever say they have any faith, love or respect for their God/Allah if they can even think of doing such horrible things. Alot of these women convert so they are Muslims and these men still lie and hurt them to get what they want. I trust they will find their place when they die and they will have to account for all they did. I do believe all bad things a person does, does come back to them:) Just because someone is born poor doesn't give them reasons to mistreat others.

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9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
15The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
13I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
27Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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