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This is not stereo typing..it's warning people to be careful...

Reader comment on item: Advice to Non-Muslim Women against Marrying Muslim Men
in response to reader comment: reply to the advice given to christian women regarding marriage to muslim men..

Submitted by My Opinion (United States), Nov 14, 2011 at 22:01

I must say I went into a relationship five years ago believing all people were the same and the religion didn't necessarily form the person. We know the religion is not the person but the fact is, a lot of people come from third world countries to the USA, Canada and Europe to find their way without any care for whom they may hurt on the way A lot of green card seekers tend to careless about the person they woo simply with only one motive: to make a better life for themselves and their family at any cost. Perhaps some Muslim people may not be so different than Americans, Europeans or Canadians but the truth is, we are very different. We are raised differently and taught differently. There are huge differences and those differences are hard to bridge. Oddly, most Muslim stereo type western women and western society so please don't be upset because many western women have had terrible experiences with Middle Eastern men and are voicing their experiences. The reason why there are warnings out there is because so many of those men that come from Middle Eastern countries abuse these western women.

Fortunately I saw the light quickly. The Muslim man I knew played on my weakness and acted like he would treat me like a queen. He knew I was married, I was separated, but tried to wreck my marriage and take me from my children by reasoning that in the Quran people left their families, children, brothers and sisters when they converted. I realized that any person like this, that would recommend you to leave your children couldn't be a good person and so I told him I didn't want to have anything to do with him. He acted like he wanted only me and came to the USA trying to convince me to marry him. I refused and out of desperation he made a quickie marriage to some lonely, very large woman that he didn't know just to get a green card. Through out the last four years he supposedly had no money and tried to give the ole' guilt trip of how he ruined his life for his love coming here to this f** country. I found out he sullied my name and said terrible things about me, saying I was a bad mother, that I deserted him and left him to fend for himself alone after he chased after me begging and pushing me to marry him, just so people would feel sorry for him and give him money. I personally chose not to have anything to do with him and told him that my children came first but I was never unkind to him. I paid for hotels and plane tickets until he could get his life in order and yet I became this terrible person to everyone that he met later on simply because I chose not to marry him. The thing is, the woman he did marry, whom he is still married to, was just a convenience and not for love. The poor woman is now heart sick over him, will do just about anything for him because she was lonely and wanting love. He has always refused to ever live with her, choosing to live a few hundred miles away in a complete other city so he can be free to do as he pleases. He keeps her always wanting and wondering, accasionally visiting her when she is about to give up and becomes desperate. Then he resorts to sleeping with her to keep her on track, telling her what she wishes to hear and then leaving again. You see he has had many girlfriends and uses them all for sex, money and anything he can get. Some women obviously can be very stupid. To this day, he is still married to the one woman, living 200 miles away and making house with another. He now has a baby by another woman that he married in a mosque. By the way, this woman was already married legally to another man:) Ah the irony. The other woman he married for the green card never knew until after it all happened. You think ask her for permission...heck no. He tells the woman that he is legally married to what she wishes to hear and lies because he reasons it's okay to lie to save feelings and protect himself. Another teaching that Christians don't agree on. We don't feel it's right to lie under any circumstance especially in life situations such as these. He tells the woman that has the baby with what she wants to hear and then he has his relations with another fifty year old for computers and money and other things This is the first Egyptian man I knew. He was my first eye opener to the Egyptian ways. Fortunately I walked away before I got too carried away and had made no ties or promises:) but I can almost assure you that all the other women in his life here in the states are not so fortunate. They are for his convenience, for temporary use until he gets his permanent green card and feels secure enough to drag his Egyptian life over. Belief me he is telling each and everyone one of those women that they are his love and everything they want to hear. How do I know all this? Because I've met the woman who he got pregnant and other than being very gullible, she is very nice. He was trying to get with me while he was with her and she read and heard his texts and messages to me. She told me he abused her, beat her, treated her terrible and I suppose these women allow it because they feel they can't get anything better. If you are one of these women, please don't think you have to settle for something like that. You are better than that. Don't waste your life in hopes that your relationship may be different than all the rest If you have fears or doubts then something is terribly wrong. Heed the warnings in your head and get yourself into a situation you feel you can trust. Some signs are, they are wonderful and loving at first, but they break you down with words by belittling you later after you trust. Most give the silent treatment, sometimes not talking with you for weeks. They say they won't take money from a woman at first but later, break down and take it and they don't necessarily ask for it right up front either. The person I knew, if you offered, at first he'd say no, then later ask if you still had that old computer, phone or whatever and decide he could use it if you weren't needing it...ummm He was very sly about the way he approach that subject and believe me, most would never take money from a Muslim born back home but western non-Muslims women, by all accounts I've heard while talking with Muslim friends and even with Muslim men say this. Most Muslim men never consider even a woman that converts as a true Muslim like their home grown girls. With this reasoning, it's okay to take money from you even if you feel you converted. He still won't feel you are a true Muslim in most cases. Just because you wish for a relationship and don't want to be lonely, it isn't worth most of what these women go through. He seeks out women that have troubled marriages, are weak, are lonely and looking for a shoulder to cry on. At first he is kind and gentle then he changes to being mean and giving you the silent treatment. Heed the signs! The woman he got pregnant, she had a few kids already, was married to another man when he married her in the mosque. What kind of Mulsim is this? Even though she knows he cheated on her, she hopes someday she will have what she desires most, he desires most. It's all bull*. People please, it shouldn't take a relationship miles away to make you happy. There are proven statistics that show such relationships are more prone to failing. Talking on the internet and over the phone hides and masks many details. You don't know the man until you've been with him. There are many Muslim couples here that I know, most have lived here for 20 years, but they are very nice people so I am not talking down Muslim people. There are many, many nice people from all over. The thing is, many third world countries are going through very hard times right now and it is very difficult for them to make money or to get jobs. Many will do just about anything, no matter what it takes or who it hurts to get what they want. Five years of going through short term distress in a loveless marriage is nothing when you see the bigger picture. Understand and don't be hurt if you are just another statistic. Many people have warned you and once it happens to you, you may be ashamed and sad but if you are a statistic, warn others so they won't make the same mistake. After all, we are human, we make mistakes. You take a chance in any relationship but more so with this kind. It's sad to think ...you will have to wait for several years, until after his green card comes through to see if your relationship with him and his love for you is for real.

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11Recovery [76 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:35263953
4Relationships that Serve the Prideful Self Always Breaks the Hearts of Others [366 words]M ToveyFeb 24, 2021 12:49263953
9NPD in Muslim men and Ali Sina [317 words]A very concerned readerFeb 24, 2021 13:25263953
9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
15The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
13I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
27Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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