Turkey is a little bit better than others

Submitted by Bugra (Turkey), Nov 1, 2006 at 06:53

Hi all!

I just want to say, as a Turkish non-muslim guy, that all the bad things people say about muslim guys can happen in Turkey. However, turkish culture is not uniform. I'd say it changes from neighborhood to another. Some here take religion seriously. Some don't. It is a country where you can yell that you are an atheist.

I think the turkish muslim guys' problems do not emanate from solely religion. It's about the pride of the poor. It's about proving his "manness". And of course, a pool of vastly unorthopedic women wandering around, where the chances of finding a beauty is somewhat higher only in my city (Izmir). An common rule for this place: girls like bad guys! that's for sure. Sadly, good guys miss out.(Another popular saying is the 4S rule, the one who loves gets screwed, the screwer gets loved) Any chance where both fall in love? no! So what's it about then? hate, revenge... And it's got to do with economy too.

If you're a good guy in business here, the chances of earning good income here is pretty low. Therefore women first suspect then segregate polite guys here. For example, you could be polite and sexy right. That doesn't work here. You've got to disdain, trick, upset your partner to earn her respect. But at the same time you are offering protection to her. You pay the bills, you bear the coyness without any particular reason, etc. So the question is: Is it a relationship or shall we call it stress?

I don't know how it would work with non-muslim women. But expect something similar. My opinion is that it could be unbearable. It is not just the guy you are with. Consider the streets. Full of harrassment for women who has a drop of beauty. If you are in the east part of Turkey, you find out that women are killed by their families for not staying virgin until marriage. So it is the problem of family "pride". Your value decreases as you travel east, and you become an object.

Only 50 percent of women of working age are not in the labour market. So there are many housewives as you see. Yet I find it good that we have the other half working. It is a step forward.

Also consider this. There are some institutions missing in this society. For example friendship between men and women. It's so difficult ask for example a girl to go for a drink. Let's say you have a boy friend, I have a girlfriend. In the some company. I say to you, let's have beer and chat. I tried that several times. Once the woman showed up with her husband:) "Hey, I'm not stealin' nobody "moods don't cheer you up here. So you can't sustain friendships, either you two go further, or stay detached. I can guarantee this is 100% the case

But despite all this, please know that Turkey is not on par with Arab-muslim countries. Because life for women in Arab-muslim is so so unbearable. Not to forget of course, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Bangladesh. Stay away from these countries girls!

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