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GRIMMER Than You Think. To: "survivor" and our Old European "Allies": BRACE YOURSELVES !Reader comment on item: Europe or Eurabia? Submitted by mariana (United States), Apr 17, 2008 at 13:57 Dear Survivor: Please do take this to heart, as you're hearing it from a former "internationalist" who grew up believing the UN and NATO, and [Marshall Plan reconstructed] Europe would be forces ["Allies, if you will] for Peace in the world; and that those we spent our blood and treasure for - while, possibly not being grateful, at least would not be overtly hostile and subversive of our attempts to keep them and ourselves Free. To deconstruct, a bit: ">...Americans have never ever had to live under occupation or bombardaments of their cities.... ">...European psyche was damaged beyond repair." European "psyches" cannot be "repaired" because they refuse "Treatment" which would require that they first "remember", then "learn" from their past behaviours, and then pass this knowledge down to their progeny. Europeans do not believe there's anything wrong with them.....STILL ! Europe's press gloats over how "...they showed Bush". The entire tone of everything coming out of our "Allies" offends me, deeply. When you eat at my table, you follow the rules of my home.. Full Stop. ">...Your men fought (only after pearl harbour mind) but you have never been occupied by an invading oppressive force.." I just love hearing how "little" America did, and for just how "short" a time; but I'm not even going to "go there". You just keep that in your pocket to keep you warm at night. And understand clearly: that if I have anything at all to do with it "next time", you will not have to suffer ">...(only after Pearl Harbor mind)". As for the: ">...but you have never been occupied by an invading oppressive force.." Actually, we were "occupied by an invading, oppressive force"... two of them in fact: Britain and France. We did not like it one bit; and when their "oppression" became uncomfortable/intolerable, we demonstrated our displeasure. Why have the European countries not "demonstrated their displeasure" ? The only "displeasure" they dain to reflect or demonstrate is suspicion, envy, and hatred of those who "saved" them and continue to "maintain" them 60 years later; while they throw darts at our backs. ">...Stop your it's us against them mentality." Of course it's "Us against them" [our Old Euro Allies] ! We've had this demonstrated to us bluntly and explicitly, in the UN, NATO, and the G-7, 8, 9- all organizations and their member states, ALL of which expect us to provide the money and blood to keep them fat, prosperous, and safe while they betray and insult us. Ask liberal Democrat Colin Powell [former Republican? SecState in the 1st GWBush Admin] about his "experiences" with French and German "assurances" and "word giving". More "Togetherness": Five years of our "Allies" pusillanimous negotiations with Iran" have gotten us where? They've p1$$ed-away 5 years, enabling AhmediNejad to possibly get within months of a nuclear bomb... AND THEY'RE STILL WATERING DOWN SANCTIONS ...AND BREAKING THEM ! Even Switzerland ! ">...You Americans can only imagine the horror, the never-ending nightmare of those times !" Have you mentioned any of this "horror.... and never ending nightmare" to the 3 or 4 generations you've parented since "those times"? Do they look forward to reliving the experiences? After all, the WWII generation didn't learn from WWI... or Napoleon for that matter. And now, America's supposed to sit still and suffer another round of Euro "OstPolitik" on top of everything else?? ">...We were in it together trying to halt Nazi domination." ">...Let us stand togetherand fight, as this is no time for criticising allies !!" : Go back up to the: ">...(only after Pearl Harbor mind)". My impression of your "togetherness" scenario = Americans in the front lines with Allies making side-deals with THEIR enemies; shooting US in the back from behind, and leaving us "out there" hanging... More "Togetherness": Basra, Iraq was part of the "British Area of Responsibility". Just how has that worked out for Americans & Iraqis? Brits abandoned the city and population to the animals, pulled back to cower in their bunks at the airports, while Americans are sustaining "incoming" and having to re-take the already-taken "Area" [house by house]. ">...We are in it together now.." Go back up to the UN/NATO/EU/Powell/Afghanistan/Iraq sections. Truly, with "friends" like this, we do not need any "enemies"; and since we have enemies a-plenty, it's better this go 'round, that we keep those "enemies" in front of us, in plain sight. mariana Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (415) on this item
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