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Submitted by Nura (United States), May 15, 2008 at 21:51

Plato, pagans by definition are less bloody? What kind of argument is that? Let's look at the Arabs before they received Islam. They were burying their babies alive in the Sand. Regardless of what changes India has made, there are still more than enough of the problems and cases that I present. I rest my case of Hinduism. The Babylonians, Egyptians, Sumerians, Persians, Vikings, ancient EGYPT, human sacrifices in the Americas, I really I don't have time for this nonsense.

Can you prove that your religion is the truth. Again, what type of argument is that? Yes, I can prove that my religion in the Truth or I would not be Muslim!

"If one god can pop out of nowhere and no when why can't a zillion of them"

Good reasoning Plato, then go further and ask why a zillion gods would share one Kingdom? Humans can hardly share one Earth. They would all kill each other until only one was left anyway. That is why there can ONLY BE ONE!!

Here we go again about the Invading Arabs. How can you invade your home They WERE ARABS! This is really comical. I think I am enjoying this too much. The arguers forget that Arabia was warring tribes and nations before Islam. Islam united them. Made them brothers. Very Ethical in principle.

India, So India does not have an Imperialistic history! They did not have warring tribes and nations that subjugated people under an empire. We could go on like this forever Plato. How far do you want to go back? Islam first influence with India was not through war. Mosques were built in India and there was a following of converts before the Turks arrived on the scene. Don't forget that Muslims were major players in India's independence from Britain.

Second rate Human? What are you talking about? My husband does not abuse me. What don't you check out those statistics in your religion. Food for thought:

Women

If any do deeds of righteousness, be they male or female,
and have faith, they will enter Paradise
and not the least injustice will be done to them.
[Quran 4:124]

O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and God will bring about through it a great deal of good. (4:19)

O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, his mate, and from this pair scattered (like seeds) countless men and women. Reverence God, through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and reverence the wombs (that bore you); for God ever watches over you. (4:1)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (PBUH) as saying: A believing man should not hate a believing woman; it he dislikes one of her characteristics, he will be pleased with another.

Allah's Messenger (PBUH) said, "When a woman observes the five times of prayer, fasts during Ramadan, preserves her chastity and obeys her husband, she may enter by any of the gates of Paradise she wishes."

The Prophet (PBUH said,
"Paradise lies at the feet of your mothers."

These are a few sources that women are loved by Allah as any Man. Paradise is for Man and Woman, and so is Hell.

Islamic History!! Where do you get your information from? You know you skipped the whole part where Muslims fled Mecca to Ethiopia to flee persecution. They were followed by the pagans who tried to have them turned over to them for slaughter. You are saying that you KNOW Islamic history. Who is better to write it than Muslims themselves!!! I guess I am to learn Islamic history from a Hindu!! I have taken Islamic History Plato, you are not pulling blankets over my eyes. YOU do not know the history of Islam. Note: Abu Suffyan became Muslim later of his own fee will. His daughter,Ramlah became Muslim before him. Islam has the reputation of endoctrinating it's oppenents: The Tuks, Mongols, who actually conqured the Islamic empire and then coverted to Islam by the influence of the people!!! Who converts to a conquered idealogy unless it is the truth!!!

Oh, the caravan attack. During the Medina period Muslims would have been fine if the pagan Arabs were not sanctioning the city. During this period and the Meccan period before it Muslims were being heavily sanctioned. There were in forced starvation. There were times when they were so hungry that they used to tie rocks around their stomachs to help the pain. The Meccans would not allow them to buy food and prevented others for selling to them. This was the state of affairs in early Islam. This is one of the reasons why ALLAH allowed the taking of caravans. Another reason is that this is a very known tactic in war. You take the supplies of your enemy. I need to say no further.

It's very easy to skim read the Quran, Google search it, take passages out of context. It's an elementary game that is played quite often. I don't have time for it, so you can save it for your next debate.

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