"Restrictions" are largely chimerical: "Banned", Excluded", and "Deported for Cause" Would Be Closer To The Mark. Should Europe's Muslim Population Reach [even] 15%, Eurabia is Lost.

Submitted by mariana (United States), Apr 20, 2008 at 20:10

Hi Jennifer:

Thanks for the clarifications, they are interesting; however, a lot of what you've written here still seems awfully optimistic.

">... I made the last comment regarding Muslim "majority" not taking place peacefully - Muslims themselves will not permit this to happen.."

I have seen no hint that the "good Muslims" have any tangible desire [or ability] to stop Jihadis. They're mostly sitting this out [ostensibly on the side of "Civilization"], hedging their bets and half-believing that the radicals will succeed, and calculating how they'd benefit [!?] somehow. It's been 7 years since 9-11. CAIR, the Arab League and Zogby's group have not moderated one whit, yet our government and media still recognize them as "Moderates".

">...i.e.., it's my opinion they won't last in Europe if there numbers get beyond, say, 30% (they now are 5%)."

And WHY on earth would Europe consider allowing the 5% they cannot control at all - to become 30%? As previously said in another mariana post, Hitler needed no Majority [nor 30% for that matter] to take over. Hitler had committed, ruthless, utterly amoral THUGS [less well armed than these animals]; and Laws that allowed them to confiscate weapons from civilians, leaving an indolent, untrained, unarmed populus - just like today's "PC" Europe. You're still too optimistic and haven't acknowledged the unimaginable [to non-Muslims] brutality and savagery of these Jihadis; please do not forget the videos of Infidel heads being severed with dull Jihadist knives.

Paris and its periphery suffered from car, bus, truck, and shop bombings for weeks [even though coverage was muted after the first weekend]. One might expect this would cause serious change in French Immigration policy, and extension of French Law into "no-go zones". Have you heard about any change? Mass Deportations? Closing radical Mosques and jailing Imams who "incite violence"? It's clear that the Gendarmes aren't what they used to be. Critical: European civilians [unlike Americans] cannot own or carry guns, and Jihadis have automatic weapons like AK-47's, and explosives. Forbidding the wearing of Hijab is symbolic, but...

I was grateful to Aldo Moltifiori, whose "Fourth possible scenario for Europe" [below] highlighted "Lega Nord's" demands to get a handle on this in Italy. It's a good start. The 3 million Votes they cast behind Berlusconi, are definitely positive. The worry is that this "Northern League" has other agenda. They don't like Italians from Rome/Naples south [former Kingdom of the Two Sicilias], very much, either.

">... when their numbers are substantial they seem to revert to their religion and embrace the very tyranny they left behind."

This seems to mitigate against your own argument: "good/moderate Muslims" have largely remained silent [7+years], and often quietly complicit. I'd add to your statement that they also seem to "revert to rabid, fulminating intolerance".

">...They will do this to the point of persona non grata..."

Muslims, refusing to acculturate, are persona non grata, already. The question is, what will EU's moribund Bureaucracy and those of its members do? Iran, Saudi Arabia and Putin's totalitarian New Russian Empire, whose oil and gas they require, dominate the calculus. Their response: sit there paralysed, divert resources and attention to chasing the "ponzy schemes" behind the chimera of "Global Warming" [buying/selling Gore's company's credits, etc], and Hijabs in school.

">... it's my opinion they won't last in Europe if there numbers get beyond, say, 30% (they now are 5%)."

If Muslim population ever reaches even 15%, the war for Europe is lost. Indigenous Europeans still do not understand who/what these invaders are, and anyone suggesting their demonstrably true agenda is "racist". What we need is some Mongols, who apparently understood how to effectively deal with this problem [see Wallace Edward Brand's outstanding post]. mariana

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