exercising democratic rights

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Apr 23, 2009 at 22:29

Yasemin (pbuh) writes:

"It is never honest for a leader to say, it is needed for another country to go and carry democracy to them by force. Democracy is nothing to give. But easy to take by invasion and trying to inslave that nation. This can be done by power, either economic power or gun power. But there can never be anything as; an army goes, ruins that country, kills and get killed sometimes, and in the end that country is saved and turned out to be a democracy! Comic."

Not sure what you mean - are you talking about North Cyprus here?

".......Democracy and freedom is something that you want it, learn it and work for it . No one gives it."

these people are certainly learning that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srFfOT50uMU&feature=related

Democracy is a difficult issue in many Islamic countries partly because of the power exerted by the status quo - but also partly because many Muslims see it as incompatible with Islam itself.

From a wikipedia article on this issue:

"Orientalist scholars offer another viewpoint on the relationship between Islam and democratisation in the Middle East. They argue that the compatibility is simply not there between secular democracy and Arab-Islamic culture in the Middle East which has a strong history of undemocratic beliefs and authoritarian power structures. Kedourie, a well known Orientalist scholar, said for example: "to hold simultaneously ideas which are not easily reconcilable argues, then, a deep confusion in the Arab public mind, at least about the meaning of democracy. The confusion is, however, understandable since the idea of democracy is quite alien to the mind-set of Islam." A view similar to this that understands Islam and democracy to be incompatible because of seemingly irreconcilable differences between Sharia and democratic ideals is also held by some Islamists. However, within Islam there are ideas held by some that believe Islam and democracy in some form are indeed compatible due to the existence of the concept of Shura (meaning consultation) in the Qur'an. Views such as this have been expressed by various thinkers and political activists in the Middle East.^"

Muslims in Britain exercising their democratic rights to undermine another democracy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdtzQ3EqNlk

A Muslim gentleman in the UK exercising his democratic right to talk out against democracy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8sbb4pKNU&feature=related

Muslims exercising their democratic rights to take advantage of democracy for their own ends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrevigv7Vms&feature=related

many people don't appreciate what they actually have and want to take it away from others.

"And to have a safer world, enemy creation should stop."
Not sure what you mean - are you talking about North Cyprus here?

'..............The name is Empire. Those days were like that. Romans, British and many more. Empire is not a democracy, it lives thru invasion."
Not sure what you mean - are you talking about North Cyprus here or Dar al Islam in general?

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