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The Armenian Genocide and those that deny it part twoReader comment on item: Does Turkey Still Belong in NATO? Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 9, 2012 at 06:13 Our dear Mozere the Turkish propagandist is back for more DNM and Ianus Yes our dear Mozere What makes you such demagogues ,cartoon characters and purveyors of mindless hate which may influence some unstable people as Breivik And let me paraphrase what you are saying: and what makes you our dear Mozere such propagandist and purveyor of mindless hate aganist us kuffar and against the Armenian victims of the Armenian genocide which may influence some unstable people as Breivik and indeed many Breiviks were created by the Turks and were responsible for the suffering and death of 1.3M of your Armenian ancestors But wait: Your Arabian Allah says in Arabic a language that you cannot speak read or write that this life is pre-planned by him as in القضاء والقدر so you see our dear Mozere we can only blame Allah for the crimes of the likes of that psychopath and criminal Breivik. So you think that you and I can do lunch with Allah and we can ask him why did he allow the likes of Breivik to commit such crime and we can ask him where was he when the barbarian Turks killed 1.3M Armenian? Deal? Oh darn it the Arabic! Do not worry I will do the talking as your Allah does not speak Turkish ,is your utterly one sided ,black and white view of history.You are the flip side of the taliban. You might be believable if you were more even handed. I read this as you do not like me reminding you that 1.3M Armenians are your ancestors and that they suffered and were killed by the Turks right? Can we expect from you such posts as;1 The destruction of the Crimean Tartars and stealing their land.2 The destruction of the Circassians and stealing of their land3 Genocides of the Balkan muslims latest of which was in 1990s4 The collaboration of the minorities of Anatolia with the enemy with a view to eliminate the Turkish majority.See dairies of Russian officers WW1,Caucusus front. What does this have to do with the Armenian genocide you tell me? Or are you saying that if these groups or peoples were brutalized then what is wrong with the Armenians being killed and brutalized? see? even your logic is flawed 5 Destruction of pagan heritage by the Christians Really? where? Hint: now you learned that in the case of Egypt the conversion to Christianity was a case of historical continuity and that your Allah and his rasul's claim that islam was historical discontinuity is a bogus claim see E Gibbon. DNM was shocked to read that a "muslim Turk" was worried about this. Yes I am ,so are millions of other Turks we are not all beardies you know. But wait our dear Mozere your Allah says is the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic اقتلوا المشركين do you know that this means? It means that your Allah is saying: 1. He does not like pagans 2. Allah is asking Muslims to kill them yes kill the pagans 3. And in the process Allah is creating millions of jihadists and criminal Breiviks right our dear Mozere? 4. So do you disagree with your Allah in regard to the "pagans" our dear Mozere the demagogue? You think that I should tell the wahhabis that you our dear Mozere the wannabe Arab love pagans and disagree with Allah? I smell a fatwa here You,yourself said that we are the descendants of ancient Anatolian peoples.Yes we are with some admixture of Central Asian blood.Does it matter now how our ancestors were converted. Yes it does matter! Your ancestors the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians were brutalized by the Turkish hordes that invaded their lands May be your own ancestors were converted forcibly. Maybe your ancestors were Arian monophisite heretics which were brutalised by the Byzantines.What does this prove,nothing ,just demagogy,nobody can choose their ancestors. So our dear Mozere is saying what is wrong with the fact that his ancestors the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians were brutalized, raped, killed and deported by the Turkish hordes You see our dear Mozere if you do not care about what really happened to your own people then you are and you must pardon me beyond help and to add insult to injury the Qur'an says in Arabic وما ارسنا من رسول الا بلسان قومه which means that islam is the religion of the arabs only and you ain't an Arab right? Then congratulations our dear Mozere but you are free now to leave islam and be free again and do me a favor ask the turks to head back to central Asia where they came from and to give the land back to its real owners the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians 6 In the past we killed our enemies, they killed us, Typical Turks they stole our lands, Really? where? Hello: the Turkish hordes STOLE the lands of the Byzantine Empire or did you forget? nobody is entirely innocent.Armenians killed us we killed them. Really? so let me see are you saying that Armenian babies that were killed in the genocide were also killing Turks and this is why they were killed? I will leave this to the readers to judge you Nobody is denying these,our government members officially say that terrible things happened in 1915 to Armenians. Oh that 1.3M Armenians were killed in cold blood? Can we expect the Russians to return the Caucasus to us so that millions of Circassians in Turkey can resettle there? No we are talking about the Armenian Genocide do not change the subject or are you saying what is wrong with the Turkish hordes stealing the lands that did not belong to them after all the Russians did the same? Main mistake the Armenians made was they tried to rule the moslem majority lands of eastern Turkey, minority cannot rule majority. Shame on those that deny the Armenian genocide and shame on Turkey and the turks Submitting....
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