Syed Mohammed Ali: If Allah can make unethical acts legal why can't he clean up that 'dirty place' ?

Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 17, 2008 at 06:08

>>…god comes from 12 years old ...womb and still a god wow unimaginable... god himself...ready to give moral physical pain to 12 years old <<

Syed, you claim Allah is the almighty so why cannot he come out of the womb of a 12-year-old without making her suffer? The womb is Allah's creation so why can't He place Himself in and still be god?

>>..to comes from her dirty place<<

What you said is symptomatic of a dirty mind. You consider a woman's vagina a dirty place. All your holy prophets came out of that dirty place. And men, including your prophet, pant for not just one vagina but for multiple ‘dirty places'.

So why are womans' vaginas dirty, Syed? Is it because share the same location as the urinary duct which you consider dirty? If vaginas are so dirty Allah could easily have located the birth canal in a cleaner place. Since He did not He does not consider it a ‘dirty place'. Logic? Or not? Would Allah have His holy prophets to pop out of such a ‘dirty place'?

>>… still a god a right ....wow.....<<

Allah is not a god capable of coming out of a woman's birth canal, something He Himself created, and still remain clean? Wow. And I thought Allah could do anything he wished. He even makes unethical acts (dirtier than any vagina I can imagine) legal. So what is his problem with the birth canal. He could easily have declared it clean and so hid Himself in the womb.

>>.....yes what you said ...53 years old married with a young girl because his god makes legal for him ...<<

Great Islamic logic. Allah makes an unethical act legal and so mere mortals cannot charge him with child molestation. (We are making slow progress. At least you don't deny that this granddad married a six-year-old.) Does this remind you of presidential pardons given by US presidents for crimes committed by their buddies?

Your Allah was especially indulgent in legalising unethical acts of his favourite prophet, Muhammad. He allowed him to marry his cousin-daughter-in-law by a law he revealed to Muhammad himself. Wow. Allowed Muhammad to terrorise people to win wars. You see Allah even encourages the prophet to commit unethical acts reprimanded the prophet for not slaughtering his captives, so I am not surprised that He legalises crimes Muhammad committed. Read this verse and note that He claims to be Wise too: 008.067 YUSUFALI: It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.

It is interesting you say his god makes legal for him unethical acts. Now as you are an Indian (?) you know that the gods of the Hindus have made it ethical for the higher castes to oppress the lower ones. Do see any problem with that? The gods of cannibals made it legal for them to eat their captives. Any problem there?

>> wow..cant you see the difference.<<

Syed, can you see the difference between the acts of the Brahmins of India, the cannibals of old and Muhammad? Wow. I can't.

>> PROPHET IS A HUMAN PEACE BE UPON HIM ..i slam your allegation on safiyan she narrates hadith and live among the wives of prophet .....her name comes with a respect and lots of muslim women have name safiyan ..lol torture murder of her husband parents and tribe ...<<

I note that the torture and murder of her husband by Muhammad is a matter of laughter for you. Having read what you said about Allah having legalised child marriage I am not surprised that you laugh at this crime. It has been legalised by Allah the Mighty Himself. Wow. Dumb me. My dumb brain is beginning to understand why Muslims call down peace upon their prophet interminably. Can his soul ever have peace?

This Mother of Believers, Safiya, like any person probably valued her own life. She was a teenager too when tragedy struck her. Do you see her making a break and fleeing into the desert to escape the attention of the prophet. There was even a man lurking outside the tent where the prophet was taking his pleasure with her the day after the disaster he inflicted on her.

Have you heard of the Stockholm syndrome. Read about it. Safiya's seems to be a classic case. Also read about Patty hearst. So Safiya dispensing hadith is no surprise.

But Syed tell us how dispensing hadith and living among his other women, which included Maria the slave, Juwairiah another captive like her, Rehana kept as a concubine excuses the prophet from unethically forcing himself upon her?

>>...think of yourself if he a woman with sooo much pain opress by prophet...and still spend her life with him ....lol how would you take not a single act of revenge ...from her against the prophet ..she stays her loyal wife ...<<

Read up on the Stockholm syndrome. As to spending her life with him, as I pointed out before, what choice did she have? Where could she run. Her menfolk were exiled and the women distributed among other Muslims (Ibn Ishaq Page 511). She had the example of the other women in similar circumstances in Muhammad's harem.

Act of revenge? She probably loved life being just a teenager. Safiya his loyal wife? How do you know? Do you think Juwairia was a loyal wife? Do you think Rehana was a loyal concubine or wife. If they were, then I can only feel sorry for Muslims, saddled with such women as their ‘mothers'.

Regards

Plato

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