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Mansoor: If Kaaba idol destruction was right, then so was the destruction of Babri MasjidReader comment on item: Resisting Islamic Law Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 22, 2008 at 05:20 Mansoor, you wrote to Jennifer: >>The point is raised regarding Budha's statue knocked down in Bamian. Personally, I feel that should not happen because it was really a historic monument and was much adored by the Budha's followers worldwide<< Is that all you have to say about that sacrilege? Why can't you condemn unequivocally what was done to the Bamiyan Buddhas as an unIslamic act? >> But can you answer me, did anybody raise the voice when Babri Masjid in India was thrashed down by extremist Hindus. Yeah, why would you raise the voice then????, because it happened to Muslims whom you have raised up an inborn hatred which is visible with your grinding teeth and blooded eyes.<< You must have had cotton wool in your ears when that happened. Or the press in Pakistan conveniently forgot to report the uproar in India by the media, the politicians and the riots staged by Muslims. The cases are still in the courts. And remember the Babri Masjid was built by an invading army and was lying disused for decades. The Bamiyan Buddhas were older than your religion and was not built by invaders. >>… Bamian action is not a good example I agree but it shows the reaction of Muslims who saw Babri Masjid fall helplessly be lunitics of what you called a secular democratic state.<< Babri Masjid was pulled down against the will of the courts and government warnings and a promise made by a leading political party not to harm the structure. The Babri Masjid was attacked by fanatical Hindus, not Buddhists. The Bamiyan statues are that of the Buddha not of Hindu gods. Did you not know that. And this behaviour of Muslims is not unexpected. Cartoons are published in a Danish newspaper. You riot in Pakistan and kill each other for that. >> May be you have forgotten the bloodshed in Ahmedabad India where the court also confirmed that Mr. Modi the Chief Minister of that time supported the extremists to kill innocent Muslims in that city and burn them alive. What a shame, your eyes are closed on this issue.<< Just google Ahmedias or Qadianis and find out what happens to them in Pakistan before you throw stones across the border from you glass house. Or even shias and sometimes mohajirs. In Gujarat the media and the human rights groups are still pursuing the criminals. Just recently the prosecution succeeded in convicting some of the rioters. The courts even had many cases transferred out of Gujarat for fear of political pressure from Modi. And even now Modi is under threat from possible prosecution. Check what happens to people who murder for religious reasons in Pakistan. >>I know on above issue many people would raise the matter of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) hitting and destroying the idols in the premises Kaaba. For me that action was 200% correct because Kaaba is purely Allah's place and no idol was allowed to be placed over there.<< Well then the action of the Hindus in bringing down Babri Masjid was also 200% correct. According to Hindu mythology Ayodhya is the holy land where Lord Ram ruled. No masjid belonging to a religion foreign to that of Ram can be allowed to stand in and around Ayodhya, say Hindu fundamentalists. Any objection, Mansoor? >> Abraham (Hazrat Ibrahim (A.S) also did the same when he bravely destroyed the idols<< What bravery does it require to destroy lifeless idols? Were the Taliban also being very brave when the dynamited those statues. So were you being dishonest when you mildly regretted the destruction at Bamiyan. >>On this earth only Allah's rule, Allah's supremecy and Allah's power should be prevailed this must be the goal of every Muslim.<< Mansoor, you have articulated perfectly Islam's supremacist, imperialist agenda. It is not that infidels are unaware that gaining supremacy over everyone by whatever means possible is Islam's agenda. Now your complaints about Gaza, Babri Masjid, Gujarat all sound hollow and dishonest. You should consider that what is happening there is the result of this supremacist, imperialistic mind-set of Muslims. Your prophet demonstrated it with his raids, destruction of idols, and massacre of opponents. His followers demonstrated it when they went invading in all directions of the compass. Don't complain when other people also demonstrate they are just as capable as Islam of doing what you think only Muslims are mandated by Allah. >>… understand that Allah's plan touches the success. He is all resourceful and Powerful. …..Black bull of recession is near to tumble you down. China, India, Vietnam, Japan and other powers are emerging on the screen. Better fasten your belt Jenni...<< From the list of nations you have given the All Resourceful and All powerful Allah's plan to dethrone the US of A does not include even one nation where His favourite people live. Your list also includes India where they burnt alive people who worshipped Him and destroyed a place where He was worshipped. Muslim nations seem to have fallen off Allah's radar screen. LOL >>Muslims lost power because they took leisure and sat back and ignored the teachings of Quran and Sunnah. But they are gaining the power again, they are knocking the super powers down again and again.<< You are welcome to your dreams but don't be surprised if you wake up to a different reality. You have quoted some verses from Surah 86 (11-17) where again we see Allah swearing by His own creation claiming the Koran is not a joke and that Allah Himself is plotting against those who plot against Muhammad. This gives you the confidence that Allah is now plotting the downfall of America. As long as you leave the plotting and execution of the plot in the all-powerful hands of Allah we are all happy. It is when his slaves think that Allah is taking too long with his plotting and planning and start lending a helping hand that we start worrying. Regards Plato Submitting....
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