I take no offense at anything you say,"Ianus", mainly because I used just about all those words at one time, too.

Submitted by kman (United States), Jan 21, 2009 at 22:38

There is much we agree on. I like to talk to Muslims because it gives my mind a break from the heavier weight thinkers like yourself. But, I think some of them use "supposed ignorance" as a tactic to draw off those who don't bother to think. This last election shows there are a lot who fall into the non-thinker category.

I get a lot of Christian publications that describe things happening in the Middle East that counter so much of your reasoning. Muslim militants being turned on a dime to the Christ by his appearing and communicating with them, for one.

There is a lot you seem to think I buy into about "religion". I tried carefully to show you that not only do I not, but neither does God.

People have always overstated the few times in the Old Testament when God instructed man to war and to wipe out the ghastly influences of the time that are detailed in much of today's accepted history. Whole civilizations sacrificed anything moving including their own children into fires to honor wood and stone statues. When the idea is to start a great people, you can't do it surrounding them with a manure pile. You have to see everything in its context.

A lot of people expect that "God" would make himself more obvious. The difference is that God expects a man to demonstrate his allegiance to the teachings of right as opposed to wrong. Note from the beginning the base principles of helping the widows, orphans, and aliens (wondering strangers from everywhere). From these moral principles he built his concepts of how man was to live. Man repeatedly failed and God addressed those failures, sometimes, with his own people - the Jews/Hebrews. When they (the Jews/Hebrews) got off track, he sent prophets to warn them what was coming down, and then, it "came down" on them. They ignored him then just as we do now. We are receiving "payment" at its initiation, now. You are seeing the commencement of man's lie (Islam) beginning its domination.

Those who defile his own love of highest creation, suffer the consquences. You fail to note the vast stretches of time between man's wanderings and God's eventual putting a stop to things before getting to far out of hand. Many generations all through man's time have lived and died unpunished by any great tragedies.

It was man's terrible condition that lead to the flood of Noah's time. The "myth" of that flood, much despised by "modern sciences", is gradually being proved all over the globe. God grieved himself over the loss and promised "never again". The next time he re-started the human race, he left the wanderers in place, and did it with Abraham.

The Creator has allowed man millenia to prove himself superior and of higher moral standing. We have fallen on our faces repeatedly and paid dearly for it. God sent the final solution, and with it (Jesus) reminded (prophecies) man of everything he taught them way back at the beginning, through Jesus time, and commencing to the present. That "solution" pointed out the prophecies that told of his coming, how he would die, and many other things. You have to read carefully or you miss the big picture.

The "picture" won't be spelled out to the point where any half-wit would see it. By "half-wit" I mean all those who choose not to "see" in the first place. Jesus spoke in riddles and performed miracles that did more than dazzle - every one was a clue to what he was really saying. Anyone who doesn't care to make the effort to give more than a cursory glance isn't going to be blessed for his choice.

For those who desire to see truth more than the God given right to live as they please, the picture will be opened up by God himself. He doesn't bless intellectual abilities alone. That would be unfair to those born lower on the scale. A love for those things of morality and truth will bring God to open the eyes of anyone, regardless of intellectual capacity.

I'm still sorry for the Muslims themselves. Their minds have been pre-conditioned to blindness and its acceptance at the point of a gun or sword. God has ways of helping them if they "accidently" find a moment of truth.

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