To Jeffrey: Contrast between Bible Jesus and Koran Jesus

Submitted by Richard Lion heart (United States), Mar 4, 2006 at 14:11

Dear J,

The rapprochement you are trying to make between the story of the crucifixion in the Bible and the Koran is not feasible. Simply because the accounts are two different accounts.

In the old testament, God promised humanity a savior that would pay the penality for our sins. As we can read in Isaiah 53:7-12

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
And who can speak of his descendants?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11 After the suffering of his soul,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

As you can see, God made a promise through the mouth of the prophet Isaiah that He would send us a savior. Now, suggesting that God went back on His promise like the Koran does by preventing the crucifixion of Jesus would mean that Isaiah made a false prophesy which would make him a false prophet. And if Isaiah is a false prophet what would that make God? After all God spoke through him.

I know Isaiah is a true prophet because his prophesy did come true. Jesus did die on the cross and resurrected on the third day.

Matthew 27:35 Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet: "They divided My garments among them, And for My clothing they cast lots."

Mark 16:4 "But when they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away --for it was very large. 5 And entering the tomb, they saw a young man clothed in a long white robe sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed. 6 But he said to them, "Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid Him. 7 "But go, tell His disciples--and Peter--that He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him."

God would never go back on His promise to deliver us and send us a savior. When the Koran suggest that God changed His mind and prevented the crucufixion, it's saying that God lied to us.

Besides in the Koran Jesus is not considerd God, while in the Bible Jesus is fully God and fully human. There is no such doctrine in Islam. This reminds me of one passage where Jesus rebukes Peter for suggesting He does not have to die.


Matt 16

22 And Peter took him
and began to rebuke him,
saying,
"God forbid, Lord!
This shall never happen to you."
23 But he turned
and seeing his disciples,
and said* to Peter,
"Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me;
for you are not on the side of God,
but of men."

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