No, they are not the same God at all

Submitted by Lactantius Jr (United Kingdom), Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15

This is a lengthy response to Muslims posting "Islam is the religion of easiness not intolerance" of 22nd.2006.

Unless backed up with clear proof, your remark "Out of context" does nothing to illustrate your objection to my quotations,, so please clearly explain the context of Muhammad saying, " I have been made victorious with terror" at-Tabari IX -69 and "paradise lies under the shade of swords." Sahi Bukhari V4B5N73 and the Qur'an saying "Muhammad said, ‘You are commanded to carry out jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam' " (Qur'an 47:4)

WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY THE SWORD? Starting soon after Muhammad's death in 632 AD, Arab armies swept through the Middle East on jihad. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once solidly Christian, quickly succumbed. Within half a decade the jihadists had taken Damascus (635), Antioch (636), and Jerusalem (638). Before a century had passed, by the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain, the Arabs having reached the Atlantic Ocean and crossed into Europe occupying all of Spain, until finally halted by Charles Martel at the battle of Poitiers (738).

In the east, the Arabs conquered and absorbed the Sassanid empire, pressing on to India. Byzantium survived, though much weakened, and her possession of Anatolia blocked the Arab advance into Eastern Europe. In the eleventh century, the Seljuks, a confederation of Turkish tribes in Iran, rose to a position of prominence within the Abbasid caliphate. They defeated the Byzantine army at Manzikert in 1071, establishing a foothold in eastern Anatolia. Turkish tribes began migrating into Anatolia, further destabilizing Byzantium and began the gradual transformation of that land from a Greek-speaking Christian one, to a Turkish-speaking Muslim one, and it must be noted that Islamic expansion continued until well into the seventeenth century. For example, jihadists conquered Constantinople in 1453 and unsuccessfully besieged Vienna for the second time in 1683 (earlier in 1529), but by the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, the Islamic jihads receded, due to western resistance.

The record of history demonstrates that most of the conquered cities and regions accepted the last of the following thre options that were enforced by the later jihadists (1) fight and die, (2) accept Islam and pay the zakat tax; (3) keep their Biblical faith and pay the jizya tax. Most preferred to remain in their own religion., although people eventually converted. After all, Islamic lands are called that for a reason—or many reasons. Why did subjugated peoples accept Islam?

The book "The Legacy of Jihad : Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims" by Andrew G.Bostom MD MS is the antidote to Muslim's assertion that Islam was not spread by the sword, providing many source documents, some translated into English for the first time. "ARE CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM FROM THE SAME GOD?" No Muslim, Christianity and Islam are not from the same God. The God revealed in the printed words of the Bible, and supremely revealed in the living, loving Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, is not the same as the Qur'anic Allah, who isn't a Father and doesn't have a Son, and whilst he might have 99 names, Father isn't one of them.

Unlike the God of the Bible, Allah is good at lying, according to the Qu'ran, Allah schemes, "and is the best of schemers" Surah's 3:54 and 8:30 with the Arabic term used for scheming being makara which denotes one who is a deceiver, one who is conniving, a schemer. It is always used in a negative sense. Allah is thus seen as the best of deceivers, the premiere schemer and conniving one. The God revealed in the printed Word of the Bible, and supremely in the living, loving Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ cannot lie however, that's right, He can't lie, or do anything else which as "the way, the truth and the life" (John 14:6) is contrary to His Character, stated in both Taurat and Injil :- "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent.Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?" Numbers 23:19 "And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent." 1 Samuel 15:29 "A faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time," Titus 1:2 "............so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged. We have this hope as an anchor for the soul............" Hebrews 6:18-19 "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning." James 1:17-18 There are definitely things the God of the Bible cannot do, and lying is one of them, He and the Qur'anic Allah cannot therefore be the same person. Period.

On a personal level, the most distressing thing is that a Muslim is given no assurance of being admitted to al-janna ("paradise"), unless he kills and is killed in Allah's service. The plain and horrid truth Muslim, is that the ONLY assurance a Muslim can have of being admitted to al-jannah, is by killing and being killed in Allah's service, with Surahs 61:10-12, 4:74, and 9:111 guaranteeing Islamic shahids("martyrs") al-janna in an economic bargain.

Indeed, these three references explicitly use words that connote buying and selling and signing a contract of sale, and the currency behind the deals is death by so-called "martyrdom." The Bible, in both the Taurat, and especially the Injil, do not have this death-cult of "martyrdom" in the mass-murder of civilians, in military battles, or in any context, and the Qur'an is dead wrong in asserting that the Gospels encourage dying in jihad to secure salvation. True, out of the deep and authentic love of the Biblical God, Jesus willingly lays down His life for the sins of the world, but a shahid's death-cult is never encouraged for Jesus' followers to seek out fame on earth and a place in heaven. Christ died to secure His followers' place in heaven, so that they do not have to kill themselves, or to die from persecution in order to get into heaven, for this would insult His unique redemption on the cross.

He was the final and ultimate "Martyr," and the effect of his "Martyrdom" transfers to all believers in him. John Ashworth, the US Attorney General at the time of 911 showed he understood Islam much better than his President, by saying the crucial difference between the God of the Bible and the Qur'anic Allah, is that the God of the Bible sent His Son to die for us, whilst Allah requires our sons to die for him At a personal level, the saddest thing about Islam is that no Muslim has any assurance of salvation, except as a Jihadist, and it is this belief that physical fighting in the cause of Allah is the highest calling, that makes Islam so dangerous and implacable. Believing and trusting in the Name of Jesus Christ is the only and the sure way to salvation, and His precious blood has the power to wash away our sins, however bad they may have been.

That is good news for all of us, not just for Muslims, and it is the very foundation of the Gospel. Allah says, "Die for me." Jesus says, "I died for you." Who will you follow ...?

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