The Qur'an is full of mistakes in grammar and syntax and spelling or perfect Arabic words

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 17, 2012 at 07:15

Our dear Abd el-rahman whose ancestors the Copts were brutalized and still are brutalized by islam and Arabian imperialism wrote

Dear dhimmi,

Yes ya ustaz abd el-rahman

You can't just come here and babble without any concrete knowledge and say that you know arabic very well and then challenge Allah and declare yourself victorious without investigating the answers and as I always say that the truth and knowledge are available for whoever wants to fins them but apparently you don't want to find it and instead you are trying hard to prove you are right and others are wrong and my advice to you is that all people make mistakes just don't try to exclude yourself and you might find something worth knowing.

Then prove to us kuffar that the Quranic in hadhan lasahiran is correct grammar and it is your chance to shine

About your comment apparently your grammatical knowledge is too limited to what children learn here at preparatory school

Then correct it or is this Islamic BS?

and you never heard about Wogouh Alia'rab

What does wugooh al-I3rab have to do with the fact that in hadhan lasahiran is a mistake in grammar you tell me

and I suggest that you do and investigate what the muslims have to say about it instead of bragging of having knowledge which you don't.

Well let us start with ibn Kathir and here is what he says

قَالُوا إِنْ هَذَانِ لَسَاحِرَانِ " وَهَذِهِ لُغَة لِبَعْضِ الْعَرَب جَاءَتْ هَذِهِ الْقِرَاءَة عَلَى إِعْرَابهَا وَمِنْهُمْ مَنْ قَرَأَ إِنَّ هَذَيْنِ لَسَاحِرَانِ وَهَذِهِ اللُّغَة الْمَشْهُورَة وَقَدْ تَوَسَّعَ النُّحَاة فِي الْجَوَاب عَنْ الْقِرَاءَة الْأُولَى بِمَا لَيْسَ هَذَا مَوْضِعه وَالْغَرَض أَنَّ السَّحَرَة قَالُوا فِيمَا بَيْنهمْ : تَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّ هَذَا الرَّجُل وَأَخَاهُ - يَعْنُونَ مُوسَى وَهَارُون - سَاحِرَانِ عَالِمَانِ خَبِيرَانِ بِصِنَاعَةِ السِّحْر يُرِيدَانِ فِي هَذَا الْيَوْم أَنْ يَغْلِبَاكُمْ وَقَوْمكُمْ وَيَسْتَوْلِيَا عَلَى النَّاس وَتَتْبَعهُمَا الْعَامَّة وَيُقَاتِلَا فِرْعَوْن وَجُنُوده فَيُنْصَرَا عَلَيْهِ وَيُخْرِجَاكُمْ مِنْ أَرْضكُمْ وَقَوْله " وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى " أَيْ وَيَسْتَبِدَّا بِهَذِهِ الطَّرِيقَة وَهِيَ السِّحْر فَإِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا مُعَظَّمِينَ بِسَبَبِهَا لَهُمْ أَمْوَال وَأَرْزَاق عَلَيْهَا يَقُولُونَ إِذَا غَلَبَ هَذَانِ أَهْلَكَاكُمْ وَأَخْرَجَاكُمْ مِنْ الْأَرْض وَتَفَرَّدَا بِذَلِكَ وَتَمَحَّضَتْ لَهُمَا الرِّيَاسَة بِهَا دُونكُمْ وَقَدْ تَقَدَّمَ فِي حَدِيث الْفُتُون أَنَّ اِبْن عَبَّاس قَالَ فِي قَوْله " وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى " يَعْنِي مُلْكهمْ الَّذِي هُمْ فِيهِ وَالْعَيْش وَقَالَ اِبْن أَبِي حَاتِم حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي حَدَّثَنَا نُعَيْم بْن حَمَّاد حَدَّثَنَا هُشَيْم عَنْ عَبْد الرَّحْمَن بْن إِسْحَاق سَمِعَ الشَّعْبِيّ يُحَدِّث عَنْ عَلِيّ فِي قَوْله وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى قَالَ يَصْرِفَانِ وُجُوه النَّاس إِلَيْهِمَا وَقَالَ مُجَاهِد وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى قَالَ أُولُو الشَّرَف وَالْعَقْل وَالْأَسْنَان. وَقَالَ أَبُو صَالِح بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى أَشْرَافكُمْ وَسَرَوَاتكُمْ وَقَالَ عِكْرِمَة بِخَيْرِكُمْ وَقَالَ قَتَادَة وَطَرِيقَتهمْ الْمُثْلَى يَوْمئِذٍ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيل وَكَانُوا أَكْثَر الْقَوْم عَدَدًا وَأَمْوَالًا فَقَالَ عَدُوّ اللَّه يُرِيدَانِ أَنْ يَذْهَبَا بِهَا لِأَنْفُسِهِمَا وَقَالَ عَبْد الرَّحْمَن بْن زَيْد بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى بِاَلَّذِي أَنْتُمْ عَلَيْهِ .

This is his tafseer so can you tell us our dear Amin what these first two lines say?

قَالُوا إِنْ هَذَانِ لَسَاحِرَانِ " وَهَذِهِ لُغَة لِبَعْضِ الْعَرَب جَاءَتْ هَذِهِ الْقِرَاءَة عَلَى إِعْرَابهَا وَمِنْهُمْ مَنْ قَرَأَ إِنَّ هَذَيْنِ لَسَاحِرَانِ وَهَذِهِ اللُّغَة الْمَشْهُورَة

Now you tell us what does he say? Hint: in hadhan lasahiran is really in hadhayne lasahiran!

Oh and al-Tabari will not be far behind

Now I'm the one who urges you to know the truth before it's too late for you,

What truth? that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only or that your so called prophet was an Arabian warlord and caravan raider or that Allah says that he guides whom ever he wants and lead astray whom ever he wants which means that if I'm a kfir (thank you Allah) then we can only balme Allah only right?

let your mind out of its frozen state and it might help you understand some facts and more knowledge instead of just holding on to what you have in mind with such grasp.

You have nothing to say right?

I urge you to leave islam behind and say goodbye to the Arabs and their imperialism

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