Ahamd: Muslims must learn tolerance from the Pagans of Mecca

Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 6, 2008 at 22:59

Ahmad, you wrote to dhimmi:

>>And did you ever read Waqidi al-Maghazi? It seems that Muhammad was no more than an Arabian warlord and caravan raider who loved looting what belonged to others.

Answer: Mohammad PBU did raid caravans but what was the reason? He got persucuted by the quraish tribe, kicked out with no belongings.Quraishe basically took everything he and his followers owned. What would anyone do in that circumstance?I would defend myself.He raided quraish caravans and gave them a hard time.If Mohammad would have asked me to do anyhting else besides defending myself I would not have beleived in him.Islam teaches that Allah does not ask you to do or not do what does not agree with common sense. Lastly, Discussions should be made in a respectable fashion without any sarcasm! Please, if you cannot stick to that level of discussion then I will not waste my time responding to your blogs.<<

Ahmad, you claim Muhammad was persecuted by his tribe. Where is your proof for that? He preached and abused the sacred beliefs of the Quraish. Muslims even in this modern age are enraged and kill, destroy and abuse unbelievers for merely questioning your Prophet. The fact is Muhammed persecuted the Quraish under the protection of Abu Talib.

The Quraish let Muhammad preach whatever he wanted to for 13 years. Here is Ibn Ishaq on Muhammad's preaching (The Apostle's public preaching and the response ) Page118-9: When the apostle openly displayed Islam as God ordered him his people did not withdraw or turn against him, so far as I have heard, until he spoke disparagingly about their gods. When he did that they took great offence and resolved unanimously to treat him as an enemy…

Now tell us Ahmad what do Muslims do to people who disparage their Allah, let alone Muhammad a mere mortal? Suppose I go to Mecca now and preach against Islam what are my chances of staying alive for even a minute?A snowflake would have a better chance in hell.

Ibn Ishaq continues: They said: O Abu Talib, your nephew has cursed our gods, insulted our religion, mocked our way of life and accused our forefathers of error…

Did the complaint stop this "most tolerant and peaceful" of all humans?

Ibn Ishaq: They went to Abu Talib a second time: You have a high and lofty position among us, and we have asked you to put a stop to your nephew's activities but you have not done so. By God, we cannot endure that our forefathers should be reviled, our customs mocked and our gods insulted….

Ahmad, you accept that your prophet can abuse, revile other people's faith whereas a mere cartoon brings Muslims out on the streets all over the world spilling innocent blood. Compare Muslims with the tolerant pagans of Mecca. Open your eyes to Islam.

Even after Muhammad deservedly got "kicked" out of Mecca they did not harm his relatives, including a daughter of his, or confiscate anything that belonged to Muslims. The pagans of Mecca were even more tolerant that today' pagans.

Regards

Plato

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