poor Fatima

Submitted by Infidel (Australia), Apr 4, 2008 at 08:10

Fatima:

You just exhibit the typical one-eyed arrogance of many Muslims, who fail to comprehend that other people have other beliefs - which they hold as sincerely as you do yours. It doesn't make your beliefs right just because you happen to believe in them?

Tell me, isn't it true that you are a Muslim because that is the way you were brought up - the culture you were born into?

Use your well-cultivated ability to believe in fantasy - to imagine you had been born Reyjkavik, Iceland to white, European parents. Do you think you would still be a Muslim then? Tell us honestly, if that is possible.

Also, when you quote something publicly - make sure you can back them up.

You wrote:

"Pharoah also declared that He became Muslim and accepted Allah as one but only at the time when he was drowning".

( I know you didn't mean to write that Pharoah accepted that Allah was a Muslim )

Now the trouble with this statement is there's a bit of temporal dislocation happening. I know that Mahommed did some pretty strange things - like flying on a 'burak' from Mecca to Jerusalem in one night (the burak being that very rare animal with the body of a horse but with wings and ' the face of a woman'. But really time travel was not part of his bag of tricks - as far as I know.

You see, Egypt ended up being a province of the Roman Empire. By that time (before the birth of Christ) there were no Egyptian pharoahs left. Any current Roman Emperor was given the title of 'Pharoah' whenever they visited Egypt. So, seeing the person named Mohammed was born in the 7th Century - your story just is not true. (like so many of the stories you believe in.)

What I find very disconcerting is your attitude of 'you beter do this, you better do that' , which implies that you know what is best for somebody to do. Reading through your text - we see 'verdict, warning, horrible time.., Allah will never accept you,. etc etc' How do you know this? Do you know 'Allah's' mind?

To me it shows you're entirely on the wrong path - you're motivated by fear and punishment. If you've really found God - you'd be more compassionate and understanding and be more deeply aware that the path to God (or being connected with one's True self or realising Budhha nature or merging with God, the Ground of Being, however you want to phrase it ) is an entirely personal thing. It can't be forced on people by a set of laws from a 7th century tribal society or reading a book full of fiction from the same era and area.

"Before seeing the angels of death...and then you throw your hands and find your faith as fake....better accept Islam...the only path for salvation...."

Now that is a big statement to make - and again - it just is not true.

All you can say is Islam might look and sound good on paper to you - because that is what you have immersed yourself in - it's your experience. It's definitely not the experience of most Westerners - and never will be. Do you have a problem with that?

The closest thing in Islam to truth are the Sufis - yet they are persecuted or seen as heretics - for knowing that 'God' is a personal experience and not a cosmic warlord bent on the ultimate demise of those most amazing creations - human beings.

And if you are reading and writing in English to a Western audience - why use the term 'Allah' instead of 'God' ? It's your way of 'owning' the dialogue isn't it? Why don't you just say 'God'?

Actually, on second thoughts you'd better continue to use the term 'Allah'` - as obviously the God of the Bible and 'Allah' are two distinct entities. I don't think Jesus or any other real spiritual masters would have been really impressed with Mohammed's version.

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