freedom - the power to determine action without restraint of ANY kind

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Sep 3, 2009 at 23:39

Mr. Bilal, writing from the UK where he must have been forced to live rather than the Islamic paradise he'd much rather be living in, writes:

"The West propagate this idea of "Freedom" as if people are free to do and say what they can. Yet it is a fallacy because the ambit of "Freedom" is defined by them."

Well, seeing that the English language - which you are using was invented by the English - aren't they free to decide for themselves what the words they use in their own language actually mean - rather than have that dictated to them by interlopers who don't like the concepts behind the words? I think that's reasonable - don't you? No one tells Pakistanis what Urdu words should mean do they?

Let's start by defining our terms . The noun 'freedom' means different things in different contexts:

the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint:
exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc
the power to determine action without restraint
political or national independence
personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom.
exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear.
the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc
ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.

"...You force women to uncover against their will, because you treat them like sexual objects."
Who forces women to uncover against their will??? Be a bit more specific before throwing around accusations. Forcing a woman to uncover against their will is a sex crime and a crime of deprivation of liberty and punishable by imprisonment in most jurisdictions.

"If they don't, they remain abandoned not only socially, but in terms of employment too by the "free" west. That's why women who go for interviews always feel the need to wear open blouses with low cuts often donning mini skirts resembling office prostitutes."

What complete and utter garbage. As I write this - I'm looking out into a foyer and at probably about 100 employees. Of the many female employees - I can't see one looking like a prostitute - or even wearing a low cut dress. And if they did - they'd do so because they felt like dressing like that on that particular day.
They don't seem at all to be 'abandoned socially' - or 'in terms of employment'.
They have 'the power to determine action without restraint".

Do you seriously think women always dress to impress males??? Maybe you've just got tickets on yourself - you know the Islamic male gets told he is the creme de la creme of humanity - but then feels left out because no one else believes the BS. Don't the girls pay you any heed?

"I think that not wearing Burqas and Niqaab in the West should be made illegal."

Typisch! I think that Muslims emigrating to the West, feigning allegiance just so they can get in - and then trying to re-make their new environment to fit their outmoded Islamic ideas - should be charged with fraud and sent packing back to whatever Islamic oasis they ran away from initially.

"Maybe that would curb the explosive numbers of rapes that occur daily in the countries '"

What a completely idiotic and arrogant statement to make - especially seeing it is not backed up in fact. Why have there been so many Muslim males convicted of sex crimes in Western countries - against non-Muslim women??? See Swedish, Australian, Danish, Canadian crime stats. Tellingly, one Muslim male spoke about his vicious rape of a white girl here saying - 'if she had been a Muslim - it would never have happened.'

' inhabited by you decadent animals with no morals."
??? And whose co-religionists are daily blowing people up, cutting their throats, wishing death to America, burning building because of cartoons , hanging people because they're gay or beating or whipping them because they have a different religion etc etc

"No wonder the fastest growing ideology worldwide is Islaam and no wonder the largest proportion of those reverts are white women."

Doesn't add up statistically. More white women than men (white, black or brown) or women (brown or black ) become Muslims???? You're living in a fantasy world.

"One look ... is enough to convince anyone Islaam is the superior way of life."
Further proof you've lost the ability to see reality for what it is.

http://www.adishakti.org/pdf_files/musharraf_berates_muslim_world_%28BBC%29.pdf

   
 
 
     
 

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