bon voyage

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Sep 27, 2009 at 23:15

Mr. Ammer _2 writes:

"Only attempted sophisticated sophistry that can never finish because the only desire is to be finished with Islam by any and all means and ipso facto to all those who have the temerity to sincerely believe in Islam and to be guided by its best principles."

Oh, you're referring in a round about way to my general criticism of Islam again? Re-read my posts - I can't recall saying I wanted the 'finishing of all those who believe in Islam. Sounds like you're playing the victim card again.

"if people would accept only the Islamic commands to leave drinking, gambling, premarital sex and adultery all done in the name of freedom of choice of the individual we would save many lives from unnecessary suffering."

If........only? But , sir, these are not 'Islamic' command by any means. A sincere Christian or Buddhist would recommend these things too. And then they'd extend it - to say - respect all life and in doing so - respect yourself. If you have real self-respect and are aware then automatically you will not act in a way to damage yourself or others. So people do NOT need to accept the so-called 'Islamic' commands you've listed for they are not Islamic commands at all. And they should stem from realisation - not be instilled from an external source religious as a 'command'.

"Just because war is fought in the name of democracy,peace and justice or even Islam does not justify the injury and deaths of innocents. The end not only does not justify the means it does not even accomplish anything in the long term."

That's pretty much a truism - like saying the sky is blue. Very few people will disagree (except those behind the destruction)

".....May we be guided to the truth and be able to recognize it and implement it . "

It's more like - 'may we awaken to the truth".

"......I will now take leave of this site ..."

It's good you haven't taken leave of your senses - as so many of the more devoted Muslims have.

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