Salah Ali: Negating Allah will lead to negating superstition

Submitted by Plato (India), Oct 1, 2009 at 23:37

Salah Ali you wrote,

>>Then, is it possible that so many people are still living in the dark ages? Is it possible to live in a world without God. Negating God (Allah) means negating faith.<<

I think people with religion are the ones who retreat into the dark age of religion, particularly of the monotheistic kind. Religion imposes silly taboos like pork, clothing, and sillier must do things like fasting, prayers, and blood sacrifices.

Negating Allah means negating superstition.

>>What about the Jews, forget about Moslems.<<

Back to the Jews! What about them? Islam abuses and curses them in its holy book and Muhammad killed, exiled and took into slavery the Jews of Medina. They are the Muslims' bete noir since Muhammad was rejected justly and rightly as a prophet by them and suffered terrible consequences as a result from abuse and curses written in stone in the Koran to their blood being shed from the Banu Quriza to this day by Muslims.

>> I cannot imagine a world without religion or that religion can simply get red with like Greek mythology.<<

Imagine the time before religions arose, before Moses brought down his tablet from the mountain.

What is red about Greek mythology? WasIs it any redder than the yearly red blood you shed of millions of animals every year?

Is Islam not a mythology. Angels, jinns, a flying horse with a woman's face, and a phantom claiming to be creator of all these fantastic mythological beings.

>>Science cannot explain all the problems we are facing.<<

When science can explain a problem it generally has a solution to it. Science has been solving problems since man invented the axe head. The biggest problem science has been struggling with is how to show up religion for what it is, charlatans making suckers out of gullible people by parading as gods, goddesses, prophets or messengers of some phantom or the other.

>>Much of human history and achievements rest on religion. What about the moral codes?<<

Among the achievements of religion do not forget the crusades, the Banu Quraiza,the inquisition, the ridda wars, the requirement of Koranic verses like 9:29.

The moral and ethical codes are hardwired into us by evolution. All necessary codes for survival and progress are now safely programmed into our genes. All that religion can hope to accomplish is blunt or sharpen some of them. Islam has managed to amplify some of the worst instincts programmed into features of our genesmoral/ethical codes. ( domination of the weak 4:34, looting the weak 8:41, 8:69, fighting and killing people you do not like, 9:29……).

>>If man is just an educated, self conscious animal?<<

What other grandiose title can we give ourselves?

>>1+1= 2 IN MATHMATICS BUT 1+1= 3 IN BIOLOGY, WHAT IS THE RESULT OF 1+1 IN QUANTUM MECHANICS?<<

Quantum mechanics IS mathematics. It has what appears, with our present knowledge, some strange logic, not divine logic. But even in quantum mechanics one electron plus another electron are still two electrons and not three. That would be a devastating blow to conservation of mass and energy. The electron can change into other particles or energy or to appear where it ought not to be given our present knowledge.

How is 1+1 = 3 in biology? There is mathematics in biology but no biology in mathematics.

Koranic mathematics is even stranger as befitting such a strange being, as Allah. His Day consists of both 1000 years and His angels have days which equal to 50,000 years. Allah and angels move live different frames of reference. Einstein's relativity of time was already known to Allah! He thinks six and eight are equal in cosmological calculations. He created the universe in six days as well as in eight days. Allah clean forgot that all He had to do was say "BE" and He could have reduced both six and eight to zero. Instead, with His strange mathematics He reduced Himself to Zero.

>>Very many thanks for your time, efforts and scholarship...I will carry on discussing these issues if you do not mind.<<

I am retired and have time on my hands, so no problem.

Regards

Plato

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