Salah Ali: Islam destroy the power to think logically in Muslims

Submitted by Plato (India), Nov 22, 2009 at 03:17

Salah Ali, you wrote,

>>I studied linguistics in england ages ago. I used to shake a leg here and there with my girl friends.<<

You sound as though you enjoyed having English girlfriends, perhaps they enjoyed your company too. Would you allow your sisters back in Arabia to enjoy themselves as your girlfriends did with you? And what does studying linguistics in England have anything to do with niqabs?

>>It is not hypothesis. There are so many orientalsts who praised the Islam and the Prophet. <<

It is also not a hypothesis that you can find more orientalists who criticized Islam which is why Orientalism is in such bad odour with Muslims.

>>…My comment is that isla has the power of water and blood thar permeate the minutest cell in our body.<<

If so why are there more than four billion non-Muslims in the world? Allah's power may run in our blood and cells but the minds of most people on earth reject this blood-thirsty god Allah. He demands that millions of animals be sacrificed to please him every year.

>> Believe me no matter how much strong the criticism and powerful the logic of antibelievers or rather non-Muslims, will view that with the utmost disregard. <<

If powerful logic cannot convince Muslims their religion is false it is because Islam has muddled their brains and made them incapable of understand even simple logic. Muslims are incapable of understading that a god who cannot count cannot be a real god (I am referring to Allah's inheritance laws and the number of days He took to create the universe).

>>My standing point is that..I always read the Qur'an...I feel something attracts mr to the verses. Please understand I am not responding mentally in the sense of applying logical investigation...It is not the cosmology...but the power I feel in me reading this fantastic work in Arabic...It gives me satisfaction..and comfort…<<

Are you attracted to verses which insult, curse and abuse unbelievers llike: 9:28 and 9:29. If you are then you must consider all unbelievers including the girlfriends you enjoyed in England to be unclean and good only for imposing the humiliation tax Jiziya.

When you read fantastic verses in Arabic like the ones that unbelievers are like panting dogs or blind, deaf and dumb (7:176, 8:22. 8:55 etc.) do you feel a great sense of comfort and satisfaction that Allah had the good sense to grace you with Muslim parentage? You surely feel you have more power than the poor infidel who is reduced to a dirty animal by Allah.

>>..I believe strongly that Muhammad (P.B.H.) is true and the qur'an is the word of an almighty being...There are verses which forsees cosmology<<

Since Allah is the creator of the universe where is the need to foresee cosmology? Allah should have been able to clearly state in the book of all knowledge, the Koran, how he created the universe or what were the laws he decreed to bring it into existence. The cosmology stated in the Koran will be laughed off in any class on the subject.

Allah says He has prefect knowledge in:

002.029 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge.

Then He goes on to reveal His ignorance in His Koran:

HILALI-KHAN 2:29 He it is Who created for you all that is on earth. Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and He is the All-Knower of everything.

KHALIFA 2:29 He is the One who created for you everything on earth, then turned to the sky and perfected seven universes therein, and He is fully aware of all things

Even these modern translators have used 'then' to indicate that the earth was created before the rest of the universe. Allah is forgetful of even such an important event how is He going to remember the verses He reavealed. (This could be reason for the repetitiveness and contradictions in the Koran)

>>the metaphors and universality, the images and the rhetorics are so superb I think you cannot understand Muslim people in this particular respect...If you say Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Rahim, subhan allah, La Illlha Ila Allah wa Allahu Akbar you feel eternal. But in Arabic..Writing or translating the qur'an into any other language is debauchery...An insult to Arabic.<<

Allah must be a highly biased god because He chose to reveal His book in a language which becomes gobbledygook when translated. Your Allah did not have the intelligence (or maybe He knows no other language) to realize that Arabic was the wrong language to give out his message.

>> Yet I understand that the non-Arab Muslim have embraced Islam because its preaching and rituals of cleanliness of heart, personality and first of all for injecting a sense of significance into human life.<<

The non-Arabs became Muslims after they were militarily conquered and that must tell you something. Consider that Muhammad's own favourite tribe the Quereish refused to become Muslim until they were conquered. So all the prophet's preaching to his own people went waste until he held a sword over their heads.

>> As for Pornography 99% of the women shown are Western women The dirty language they use are European...See Urban dictionary if you suspect that...<<

If the internet is uncensored the Muslims, especially the Arabs, will be among the biggest clients of pornography sites. As it is even with censorship Arabs manage manage to get to these sites using ingenious technology created in the West.

>>Islam is clean The West despite the detergents it has is dirty...look at svin influenza for example, the aids, and Capitalism are all ills created by the West or the evil people in the West not by Islam...A final word<<

If Islam is clean why are Muslim countries some of the most unhygienic places in the world? Pakistan, Bangladesh are good examples of unhygienic Islamic nations. As to swine flu and aids has Allah provided Muslims with protection against them?

>>All the translations of the Holy Qur'an are distortions...No one can understand the Qur'an without full mastery over the morphosemantic structure and rhetorical devices used in it.. May Allah Forgive me listening to Al-Shurk walMushrikeen.<<

Great news for non-Arabs who think they are Muslims. All you Muslims who read Salah Ali must now realize that you are second or third class Muslims in the sight of Allah as you have no clue to what the Koran is telling you.

>>And for you Plato, it is very sad for to see you have born a non-Muslim, worse still, non-Arab..<<

Don't be sad. Allah the most Holy wanted the large majority of His creatures to be dirty mushrikeen. Feeling sad for me is equivalent to feeling sad about Allah's creation and that, my dear, Salah Ali, is blasphemy.

>>For there is so fine poetry that dwarfs the whole school of English and German Romanticism...We have created the scripture and we will protect it<<

As Arabs you have created poetry that dwarfs that of the rest of the world. Unfortunately for the rest of world Arabic when translated is gibberish. But you Arabs are quite sure yours is the best poetry because other languages are easily understood by Arabs and you are able to appreciate non-Arabic poetry as well as the non Arabs. Is this another favour Allah has granted Arabs, like the favour He did in giving you the mercy to all mankind?

>>...Moreover, your food is terrible, women share dogs in their household...the dirt the west sticks to women is intolerable...<<

McDonalds, Kentucky dot the skyline of Arab countries. Why do Arabs flock to these places if western food is so bad. Dogs are the most affectionate and loyal of Allah's creatures. Why does Allah hate them enough to drive them out people's homes. Does He have a problem with cats and if not why not? If western women are dirty why do you dally with your many white girlfriends? Sexual urges make you overlook all that stink coming from them?

>>Democracy is a prostitute since it leads to aggressin...See Nizal is not killing his mates in the shooting..His mates committed suicide by supporting their government which supported Israel..killing the children of Gaza and Iraq...The children killed were his relatives and even if they were not his relative, why should they be killed?<<

Democracy is a prostitute for allowing people like you to curse and abuse the people among whom you live and work. I can only admire such prostitutes and can you guess what I think of people who use their services?

>>If the USA has not invaded Iraq and supported the killing of children, Nizal could have still be a good USA soldier.<<

Nizal was just another client of a democratic prostitute. He found the pure land of Arabia not very attractive and decided to seek solace in the arms of a democratic prostitute. Like some clients of prostitutes do, he then tried to murder her.

>>This is the West..killing, aggression, invasion and rape:<<

The prophet went on bloody aggressive wars more than 70 times in a short span of 10 years. During these wars he plundered, killed, acquired slave girls and used them for sex and distributed women among his companions. CAN YOU DENY THESE HORROR STORIES ABOUT YOUR PROPHET?

>>See Abu Ghraib fotos and the rape of Abeer..IOne-eyed judgements are blinding so many people from seeing the whole truth. I personally do not agree on killing unarmed person even if he is my enemy and unattentive.."Every killing is a crime" we must both agree on that. You cannot go on killing me under the slogan of democracy!<<

See photos of what Muslim Arab Sudanese do Muslim Black African Darfurians and Christians.

>> In Islam you must not harm when fighting the unarmed, the plants, the elderly and women<<

Why are Muslims blind to the atrocities they commit, especially those committed by the Prophet and his closest companions?

The prophet's first biographer, Ibn Ishaq, has this about what his adopted son Zayd b Haritha did: Pg 665 of English translation by A Guillaume:

Zayed ordered QaYS al-Musahha to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly(translator: by putting a rope to her two legs and to two camels and driving them in opposite directions until they rent her in two).

'The Biography of Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq', by Dr. Ali Muhammad Muhammad as-Sallaabee, published by Darussalam (Pakistan address: Darussalam, 36 B Lower Mall, Lahore) pages 552-575:

Page 575….Khalid ….invoked Allah for help saying, "O Allah, if you grant me victory over them, then for You I will not leave a single one of them alive, at least not among those we are able to capture; and I will make their river flow with their blood…..With a great many enemy fighters killed, the only question that remained was this: how was Khalid going to fulfil his oath. Al Qaqaa….told Khalid that the blood of the enemy soldiers had not yet dried, and that there was a dam in that area one that they should let loose, so that his oath can be fulfilled. Khalid then ordered for the dam to be opened….The blood of the fallen soldiers flowed with the water, which is why the newly-formed river took on the name, The River of Blood.'

Did the women and children of the Banu Quraiza deserve to be enslaved and sold as slaves.They were not combatants. Did Asma bint Marwan deserve to die as slept at the hands of an assassin sent by the mercy to all mankind, Muhammad?

>>And this is very sad that the West is pushing people to extremes...The extremes of oil, dogs and democracy... <<

Your Allah pushed Mohammed and his followers to extremes. He made and continues to make Muslims kill without any cause whatsoever. That is why Islam is a sad and unhappy religion. A religion that dislikes dogs and democracy. Oil Allah has given to Muslims to backroll jihadists on their bloody route to paradise.

Regards

Plato

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