Salah Ali: At last an honest-to-goodness honest Muslim, YOU.

Submitted by Plato (India), Sep 5, 2009 at 09:41

Salah Ali, you write,

>>Niqab and Burqa are non-Islamic phenomena. There is no verse in the Qur'an that describes these two forms of Hijab at all…….. There is no verse at all that says a woman must cover her face, but what verses say is that women must not show their naked parts or put make-up before people other than close-relatives.<<

Plainly you are telling us that in enforcing/donning the hijab/niqab Muslims are doing something not required by Allah. This clearly means the Koran is not a clear book as claimed by it repeatedly. The scholars, jurisprudents and maulanas, practically all of whom say hijab is what Islam demands, must have read the Koran wrong and misunderstood the sunnah. I feel sorry for the billions of Muslim women who have had to don this unhealthy, ugly piece of clothing for these 1400 years because the majority of Islamic scholars are unable to understand what the Koran is really saying. Either this does not say much for the intelligence of Islamic scholars or the Koran is so divine that it is impossible for humans to understand its wonderful message.

>>The exaggeration of Hijab is an Iranian phenomenon though salafi Moslem also enforce in Arab countries.<<

Cool. Blame it on the Shias or a sect of which you are not a member.

>>Both Christianity and Judiasm partake in Hijab and Mary is always depicted with a head cover.<<

Really cool. The Christians and Jews do it, so why shouldn't we.

>>However, be what it may, I believe that the West is also exaggerating in exposing women. It provokes desire and when desire is satisfied no more interest remains.<<

Like some Koranic verses this also sounds like gobbledygook.

>>Hijab can activate imagination and make women more desirable.<<

Ooh. I am already drooling. I am going to run out, buy a burqa, and put my wife in it.

>>No one wants to see his female topped by a black ram, and it is very natural indeed.<<

If it is not bestiality you are talking about what is it with this 'black ram' topping a female?

>>To the best of my knowledge lions, bulls and eagles never allow another male to their females and only pigs are pimps amongst animals, and this is why pigs are dirty.<<

Allah created these dirty pimps, the pigs. And Allah is the best of Creators. Read the Koran:

011.006 YUSUFALI: There is no moving creature on earth but its sustenance dependeth on Allah: He knoweth the time and place of its definite abode and its temporary deposit: All is in a clear Record.

The pig is a moving creature. Its sustenance depends on Allah. Why does the DIVINE Allah sustain this pimp of an animal?

023.014 YUSUFALI: Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!

So the blessed Allah, the best to create, created the pimping pigs and sustains them.

>>We in the Arab world think that eating pigs would turn a Western man into a pimp. But I do not know for sure if pork secrete a material that turn pig-eaters into pimps.<<

You certainly are right, eating pork has made them into pimps. The Western man allowing his women to wander their streets without the hijab are plainly inviting visiting Muslims, especially Arabs, to a sex feast.

>>I would appreciat further comment if this is not being scientifically true.<<

Why do you need science when you have the Koran, the repository of all past, present and future knowledge? The Koran says don't eat pork. There must be a divine reason for it, looking for a scientific one is a challenge to Allah' divine one.

>> for the very fact this gives a biolgical cause for carelessness to women nakedness.<<

Do you mean Western women wander around naked because they eat pork or do you mean Western men (pimps due to pork consumption) force their women on to the streets unclothed to attract visiting Arabs and Muslims?

>>A woman is also personality but capitalism and democracy made women a comodity in the pornographic market.<<

So what did Islam make of women? For Muslims a woman is not a personality, she is just a vulva as your classical jurists have made clear. I have quoted the relevant passages several times on this blog but in case you have not read them here it is again:

"….mehar, is according to classical interpretation of sharia a payment for making the girl's vulva (bud'uha) lawful. To quote Kecia Ali in Progressive Muslims and Islamic Jurisprudence, chapter VII of the book 'Progressive Muslims, on Justice, Gender and Pluralism, page178:" ..the Maliki jusrists…express quite a different role for the dower, stating free woman 'is due her dower, and her vulva [bud'uha] is not made lawful by anything else….Various discussions of the Umm illustrate that dower is 'a price for the vulva' [thaman al-bud] and that 'a woman's fair dower is the fair value of her vulva' [qima mithl al-bud'a mahr mithala]. The commercial aspects of the marriage contract are unremarkable for the jurists. For example, in discussing a situation where a slave was specified as the wife's dower, Al Shafi states that 'she sold him her vulva for the slave' [ba'athu bud'aha bi'abd." The references quoted for these are Mudawwana, K al-Nikah V, 'Fi ihlal', 2:292. Umm, K al sadaq, 'Fi'l sadaq bi aynihi yatl:afu qabala dafahu', , 5:92 and Al-Umm, K al-Nafaqat 'Ikhtilaf al rajul wa l-mar'a fi'l-khul, 5:30"

Islam and Sharia reduce women to just a vulva!

>>I remember how easy to take an English woman to bed, next day, I think of another and so on.<<

You should thank pigs for all the Englishwomen you bedded. Your divine Allah, all of Whose creations are the best, created pigs who pimp for other pigs. Eating the flesh of pimping pigs the Westerners also turned to pimping for the pigs who think women are just sows always ready for a roll in the pigsty.

>>Your world is making all women prostitutes.<<

What is your grouse? Did you not have a good time with all those Englishwomen you bedded?

>>If women have the right to choose they would of course choose someone.<<

Should they not have that right? Or are they only animals or slaves, as Muhammad says they are, having no control over their bodies?

>>This is not the case in Islam. Women are born to wedlock. They also die in wedlock.<<

True. Wedlock in Islam is a kind of 'death' lock for women. The only key that unlocks it is death. Until death frees them they are locked up under the tender mercy of men as required by Sharia.

>>call it slavery but this is how we are born and how we will always be.<<

Good to know that there are Muslims capable of calling a spade a spade. How many of your brother Muslims will admit that women in Islam are slaves as Muhammad said they are in his last sermon?

>>I admit there is hypocrisy in my attitude for I allow myself what I never allow others be starangers or relatives and I do not think this will change: This is our culture and this will remain so<<

Don't be so modest. Salah Ali, you are not a hypocrite. You are telling it like it is, Islam that is. At last an honest-to-goodness honest Muslim. You proved me wrong. I never thought the genre existed.

Regards

Plato

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