Emir: Read about the 'ethical demands' of Islam

Submitted by Plato (India), Sep 19, 2009 at 05:08

Emir, you wrote,

>>Islam stands for peace and justice as the righteous of all religions understand the ethical demands of their faith.<<

What is the ethical demand of Allah (aka Muhammad)? These demands are littered in the Koran:

003.083 YUSUFALI: Do they seek for other than the Religion of Allah?-while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (Accepted Islam), and to Him shall they all be brought back. [ALLAH WANTS EVERYONE TO BOW TO HIS WILL – IS IT ETHICAL TO ENFORCE ISLAM ON UNWILLING PEOPLE?]

005.014 YUSUFALI: From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done. [ALLAH'S ETHICS EXPOSED. HE CREATES ENEMITY AMONG CHRISTIANS]

009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. [ALLAH'S ETHICS DEMANDS THAT MUSLIMS HUMILIATE, CONVERT OR FIGHT NON-MUSLIMS]

Read 9:29 where it says fight the unbelievers and humiliate them. Is it a call for peace and justice?

>>Many have used religion to justify aggression,<<

Not as liberally as Islam. Islam demands that Muslims be aggressive in promoting their religion (read 9:29) and Allah proclaims that demands that Islam be accepted even if kaffirs detest it:

009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

>> However, Christian fundamentalists see the establishment of Israel and the justification of everything Israel does in the name of its preservation as necessary for the second coming of Christ,..<<

Some minor sect of Christians have this ridiculous concept of a second coming (Islam does too, for that matter) and that being the judgment day. Shia's have something about the hidden imam's second coming. Most Christians probably are not even aware of these finer points of their religion and ignore them as they do most of the commandments of the OT.

>>… Zionist Israeli Jews justify their continued expansion beyond what was recognized by the UN as their legitmate right based on biblical authority' war and continue to settle land recognized by the UN in violation of international law.<<

Muslims have used the authority of Koran 9:29 for the last 1400 years to justify jihad to convert kaffirs. The SUNNAH of the prophet is that you give three choices to kaffirs: convert, pay the humiliation tax jiziya (only for the ahl alkitab) or die fighting.

>>The apartheid policy cannot lead to any viable Palestinian state and compromises its sovereignty.<<

The "aparatheid" policy of Israel has seen the growth of the Palestinian population that will swamp the Jews some time soon. The aparatheid policy set in motion has kaffir populations in Muslim nations falling catastrophicallay. In Saudi Arabia all the Jews and Christians of the Prophet's time have disappeared. In Muslim Pakistan Islamic apartheid has seen the Hindu population plummet to a miniscule level. And take a look in your own backyard to see Islamic apartheid in operation. You have Allah's permission for this apartheid in 9:28 where all of us infidels are called unclean.

>>Israel uses self defense to justify aggression and annexing Palestinian land to expand their control over the Palestinians.<<

Muslims use Koranic verses to justify aggression (the so-called Lesser Jihad). The Sudanese Muslims have been using it against Christians and animists in their southern provinces.

>>Israeli peace activists undrstnd this and oppose demolition of homes and orchards and settlements on Palestinian land. The continued blockade of Gaza shows that any withdrawl from Palestinian territory is a farce and only ameans to imprison Palestinians behind walls and surrounded by settlements. What the extremist radical fundamentalist Christians and Israelis promote is a theological view that is incompatible with UN resolutions and the wishes of the US and the EU.<<

Read these theological "views" found in the Koran:

008.069 YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. [UN RESOLUTIONS BAN LOOTING AND ENSLAVING ALLOWED BY THIS VERSE]

005.033 YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; [CRUEL AND INHUMANE PUNISHMENTS ARE BANNED BY THE UN]

002.228 YUSUFALI: Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. IS [ALLAHS' THEOLOGY ALLOWS WOMEN TO BE LESSER BEINGS THAN MEN. THIS GOES AGAINST UN FUNDAMENTALS OF EQUALITY OF ALL HUMANS, MALE OR FEMALE]

Verse 9:29 the command to fight and humiliate non-Muslims has no place in any UN, US or EU resolutions.

>>To demonze Islam is the means of perpetuating this injustice.<<

How about the demoinisation of Jews and Christians in the Koran?

005.051 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

005.082 YUSUFALI: Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.

005.017 YUSUFALI: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth…..

>>The entire Israeli supported propaganda machine is devoted to this end to make Muslims as pariah in the US and the world. Israel always needs an enemy to perpetuate its image as a nation under threat …… Righteous Jews and Christians reject the policies of Israel that run counter to having a Palestinian state that can live side by side with Israel.<<

This is just a diatribe against Israel.

Regards

Plato

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