Alfance ... uhh ...

Submitted by Oliver (United States), Dec 30, 2007 at 16:56

I'm sorry, I don't speak anything but english, so I think I'm missing your point ...

Anyway I was wondering if you realized 2 Tim 2 : 8 - 13 is referring to Jesus?

2 Tim 2 : 8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel, 9 for which I am suffering even to the point of being chained like a criminal. But God's word is not chained. 10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him.13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

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If we disown him, he will also disown us;

In context, this passage says things about Jesus that islam rejects ... what is your point?

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