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Dear Mo ...Reader comment on item: Is Allah God? - Continued Submitted by Oliver (United States), Jan 5, 2008 at 19:10 Dear Mo … you wrote ... Submitted by mo (United Kingdom), Jan 4, 2008 at 05:27 I only meant to say that Allah is the name used to denote the God in Arabic language and Muslim believe he is the eternal one God who cannot be imitated, no image of it could be made. With that meaning Muslims use the English word God or Greek word Theos, even though pagans have used those words to denote their deities and idols. Likewise Yahweh or the unpronounceable word with 4 letters denotes the word for God in Hebrew. We do not believe that Hebrews had a different god. You can't find the English word God in original Hebrew or Greek Bible. Would that mean that the English speaking Christians worship a different deity called "God". Likewise you cannot see the word "Eissah Massih" in your Bible that is worshipped by 15 million Arabic speaking Christians as son of God (Allah), and savior of mankind. Does that means they worship a differed Messiah (massih) than your Christ, and that they should be saved into worshipping your Jesus Christ in English. You need to understand that there are so many languages in the world other than English, and they all have different words for God. It all depends on what meaning a person gives to a particular word. i.e. definition. Look – I can't find the post that you are responding to – but no matter, I'll just pick up from here … 2Co 11:1 I wish you would bear with me in a little foolishness. Do bear with me! 2Co 11:2 For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. 2Co 11:3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 2Co 11:4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. [NASB] Please note that where there is the authentic – there will be the counterfeit … is this not how Satan works his mischief among ‘men'? Which came first – Judaism or Islam? Christianity or Islam? Islam is either a counterfeit OR something entirely different. But if Islam is something different than Judaism or Christianity – then why the attempt to identify with the God of Abraham, ISAAC and JACOB – Islam, therefore, MUST be a counterfeit. I think my original point was that the NAME of the Hebrew God is YHWH – where as the NAME of the Muslim God is ALLAH. The Hebrew generic word for god is eloh and its variations – the Arabic generic word for god is ilah and its variations. The MEANING of the NAME of the Hebrew God is I AM or I EXIST – the MEANING of the NAME of the Muslim God is THE GOD. The ROOT of the Hebrew NAME of God is not related to the Hebrew generic word for god – the ROOT of the Muslim NAME of God is absolutely positively related to the Arabic generic word for god – it is, in fact, a contraction of Al + ilah = ALLAH. Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM' has sent me to you." Exo 3:15 And God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. ‘This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.' [NASB] In this English translation [NASB] YHWH is translated as LORD because in the LXX, a Greek translation of the Torah made by 70 Jewish scholars, YHWH is translated with the Greek word Kurios, which means Lord. YHWH told Moses His personal NAME when He sent Moses to lead the Hebrews out of bondage in Egypt. Before the advent of Islam, there was a god within the Arabian pantheon with the name Allah – it was, in fact, considered the chief god of their pantheon (like the Greek god Zeus was the chief god of the Greek pantheon). Why would the God of the Hebrews (the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), who had a specific personal name (a name for all generations) that was totally disassociated from the Hebrew generic words for god and any specific names of other so-called gods, reveal Himself to Mohammad by the name of the local chief deity of a polytheistic pantheon? The fact of the matter is He didn't – ALLAH IS, in point of fact, NOT YHWH. Gen 12:8 From there he [Abram] moved to the hill country on the east of Bethel and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east. And there he built an altar to the LORD and called upon the name of the LORD. [NASB] Here Moses tells us that when Abram came to the land that YHWH had told him about, he built an altar to YHWH and there Abram ‘called upon the NAME of YHWH.' Abram worshipped YHWH not ALLAH. Abram was not a Muslim because he did not worship ALLAH. Gen 15:6 Then he [Abram] believed in the LORD; and He [God) reckoned it to him as righteousness. Here Moses tells us that Abram BELIEVED IN YHWH, and YHWH reckoned his belief to him as righteousness (as having no sin). ALLAH requires SUBMISSION but after Mohammad SUBMITTED to ALLAH, ALLAH did not reckon his submission to him as righteousness – why not? – Is Abram greater than Mohammad? Is it any wonder that the Jews laughed at Mohammad and rejected Islam when Muhammad came preaching some unknown god named Allah? Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (921) on this item
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