For once I agree with our dear zzazz

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 22, 2008 at 08:02

>If any sacred text is actually the writing of a human being,

Yes all of the so called holy books, and the Qur'an included, were written by human beings. But the Qur'an is for sure the strangest of them all. It claims to be a kitab mubeen (clear book) written bi 3Arabi faseeh (clear/perfect Arabic) and these two claims are far from the truth. This is a book that is confused and confusing and it has its share of mistakes in grammar and syntax. It has many foreign words (eg: Frqn, tur, ruum, hawariyuun, sarat) and words that have no clear meaning (eg:ilaf, kalala, ababeel, sijil and for this see below) You cannot even reconstruct the life of Muhammad by reading the Qur'an only.

As for Quranic theolgy: it is far from being consistent (eg: al-qada' wa al-qadr and al-nasikh wa al-mansukh) as I suspect that Muhammad (if he is really the author) was not a systematic theologian.

Now the Quranic rasm had to be edited by the masorites in-order for you and I to be able to read this opaque revelation. So the 3Ulama were editing the words of your Allah. So much for the unedited Qur'an

As far as I'm concerned the clear evidence that the Qur'an is written by human beings are the following examples:

1, Wansbrough's great observation about "variant traditions" eg: The two garden tradition

2. Angelika Neuwirth's observation that she found in "Meccan material of the Koran indications that it took shape in liturgical contexts which subsequently disappeared" (see Cook) which very well explain why we have no clue about let us say what the word ilaf really means or these strange letters at the beginning of some suras . It also could mean that the Qur'an pre-dates Muhammad and by the time of his death in 632CE no one had a clue about what this opaque revelation is really saying

3. Nothing more absurd in the Qur'an than claiming that secular literature of the Greeks and Syrians is the word of Allah as in the case of qisat "dhul qarnain" and qisat "ahl al-kahf" and this is more evidence that the Qur'an did not drop from the sky but such qissas (stories of fiction) were plagiarized period.

>then the incessant quibbling of literalist absolutists (who think themselves as "true believers") of any stripe is utterly moot and pointless.

Really? But it is you that post all this about Christian Arabs and Allah and al-thalooth al-muqaddas and your Zebed (sic) inscription and your conclusions are funny and bizarre and you still do not even get it. Stop reading poor Muslim web sites and read a real book.

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