For Sohail and what is really the Trinity in the Qur'an and his chuzpah!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 23, 2006 at 20:04

My dear Sohail I'm going to be blunt.

1. You do not know any Arabic and you have to consult a tedentiosu transaltion by Pickthall and you do not credit him for the translation. I call this plagiarism.

2. If you turn to Qur'an 5:116 and let us read what it says:

A. wa idha qal Allah: means "and when said by Allah" (and here is your bonus for today: this cannot be the word of Allah this must be Muhammad talking. So much for the Qur'an being the word of your Allah)

B. Ya 3Isa ibn Mariam: O Jesus the son of Mary.

C. anta qulta: you said

D. lelnnas: to the people.

E. attakhidhuni: you take me

F. wa Ummi: and my mother (Mary)

G. Ilahyin: Two Gods (the ilahayin here is a dual case and it is Jesus and Mary)..

H. Men duun Allah: beside Allah.

Your Allah is saying that the Trinity in your Allah's book (and this is in black and white) means:

Jesus, Mary and your Allah!

This measn that your allah is silent about the other Trinity which is: Jesus, the Godhead and the holy Spirit.

So congatulation my dear Sohail your Allah has no problem with the Chrisitan Trinity.

So how do you explain that you did not know about Q 5:116?

1. You could be ignorant of the fact that your Allah's Trinity is Allah, Jesus and Mary. And now you know.

2. Or your are makkar like your Allah and you hope that I do not know.

3. Or you live in your little fantasy world and you hope that i do not know.

So which one is it? And you know what? I'm very disappointed in your intellectual dishonesty.

But your ignorance of asbab al-nuzul and of the Sira-Maghazi literature is not surprising. Most Muslims believe that surat al-Ikhlas is anti-Trinity. It just happens to sound anti-Trinity but that was not the reason for its revelation.

In actual fact we are told (see Sira pages 571-572) that Muhammad was accusing the Jews of regarding 3Uzair (Ezra) as the son of God (Q9:30. The jewish Rabbi were not impressed by Muhammad little fable. Then the Rabbi posed to Abul Qasim the famous the Aristotelian problem and that is: If Allah created you so who really created your Allah?

And Muahmmad was a poor theologian and was clueless in matters of logic so we are told that in repsponse to such simple but very profound question and with a bit of help from Gabriel of Surat al-Ikhlas was revealed

The smart Jewish Rabbis were still not impressed and came back to Muhammad and asked him: "but how did he (Allah) do it? what limbs did he use.?"

Again Muhammad the poor theologian that he was gets more help from gabriel and we have Q39:67 revealed!! Matter was closed in the simple mind of your allah's rasul!

So your ignorance of sabab al-nuzul for Qur'an 112 is just amzaing. So much for Muslim education.

Now do you know what the word chutzpah really means?

Say Hi to your alter ego thetruth!

Stay tuned for more.

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