For Sohail and your credibility is on the line and Allah and Hubal

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 6, 2007 at 07:05

Our dear Sohail: The question was: is Allah and Hubal the same deity? So what is your answer ya ayuha al-fahlawi al-kabeer? In your own words. Then you come up with the funny question is Muhammad a real historical character? I knew right away that you have no clue about history or how to read history and that you are not really focused. And then you come up with one liners that do not answer anything.

But when you quoted this wannabe historian and Indian Muslim tablighee MSM Saifaalh I knew that you have no clue about anything because he has no clue either. If he was a real historian you will find his rantings published. But he ain't no historian. He is another wannabe arab like you

And I'm going to be blunt again:

1. You cannot read Arabic and you do not know any Arabic. You cannot even understand Quranic Arabic or read the hadith or the sira in Arabic. You do not even know what is a matn and what is an isnad. You do not know anything! But you are still debating history and Arabic. I call this chutzpah.

2. You ain't no historian

3. Your sources are bogus be it the hadith or the sira or the oral tradition. And you know what? If you would have read Crone's Meccan Trade which you did not you would have read her case against the oral tradition in the transmission of the history of early islam. As for your little Sparta: it is a joke!

4. Then you quote some inscriptions from MSM Saifallah web site but the question was: Why we do not see the name of Muhammad for 72 years after his death in any extant literary sources? And you know what? I was not asking you for literary sources because they exist, but for literary sources where we can read the anem of Muhammad. And let me help you: They do not exist. And why is that? You have no clue? do you? And just by quoting Saifallah I knew you have no clue, like him.

5. You did not read Wellhausen and you did not even understand that if you can refute him you can indeed prove that your Allah ain't Hubal fiction and all. But you know what? Until you refute Wellhausen your Allah is Hubal fiction and all.

5. As for MSM Saifallah: He is not a historian.

But the real question is: Why do you not post under your screen name that we all know: Sohail? Why is that?

Well: The Qur'an says that islam is the religion of the arabs and you ain't one, and the Qur'an says that jesus is God and Allah is huabl and Allah is the moon God.

I'm not really interested in debating history with a tablihgee. You only will get mockery from me.

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".