For Sohail: and the Qur'an says that Jesus is indeed your Allah!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 21, 2006 at 18:33

My dear Sohail, are you ready for your lesson in the flawed Muslim theology ? You also need an Arabic dictionary and the Qur'an in arabic to understand the following. Urdu dictionary or Urdu Qur'an would not do.

The story of Jesus appears as follows in the Quran:

1. Q19:16-34 (surat Mariam) where Abul Qasim or is it Allah tells us the usual Islamic blah....blah....blah about Jesus being the son of the Virgin Mary and about his life, and that 3Isa (Jesus or Yasu3 in Christian Arabic) is a prophet of Allah. Notice that Sura 19 or Surat Mariam is sura Makiah and more about this later.

2. Then in the usual confusion of the book of your Allah and now we switch to Q2:253 where Abul Qasim tells us about Jesus' tasks on earth and that your Allah:

" tilka al-rusul fadalna ba3duhum ala ba3d minhum man kallama allah wa raf3 na3duhum daragatun Wa a3tayna 3Isa ibn Mariam al-bayanat wa aydanahu bil ruh al-qudus"

Oh I forgot that you know no Arabic may be you can ask your Mullah to tell you waht this means or you can look it up in a tendentious Urdu translation. .

So your Allah is saying that Jesus is mufadil ( do you know what this word means? I doubt it so look it up in a dictionary) by Allah when compared with your Allah so called 120,000 prophets and because Jesus is mufadil by your Allah, your Allah provides him with al-bayanat whatever that is and support him with al-Roh al-Qudus. Allah does not provide Muhammad with al-bayannat or support from al-ruh al-qudus. Why is that my dear Sohail? It seems that Jesus was mufadil akthar min Muhammad! Oh you do not know Arabic!

A. Here is your bonus for today my dear Sohail. This is an example of a mistake in spelling in the Quran. The rasm of the word is: ALBYNT and the 3Ulama edit the book of your Allah by adding a shadda for the missing second Nuun and an alif for the missing alif and the usal tashkil that is absent in the defective rasm and the result is the wrod becomes: al-bayannat. So much for the unedited Qur'an!!

B. Bonus number two: your Allah does not tell us what is really al-Roh al-Qudus. Is it Gabriel? it does not say that, and based on the old saying: "al-tafseer lel sahaba wa al-wa'weel lele 3Ulam/jamii3" I can very much say that al-Roh al-Qudus could very well be: The Holy Spirit of the Trinity. More later.

C. The third bonus The Holt Spirit is translated in Chrisitan Arabic as and you guessed: al-Roh al-Qudus! And this is in extant Bible translations to Arabic from the 10th century, and I would bet you a buck that unless the al-ruh al-qudus was indeed read by the 3Ulama at one stage as the Holy Spriit of _The Bible_ Christian Arabs would not have dared to translate the Holy Spirit of the Trinity as: al-ruh al-qudus!

Notice that Surat al-Baqara or sura 2 is from Abul Qasim's time in Medina and more later.

3. Then we have Q3:49 where your Allah or is it Abul Qasim says: "the usual blah....blah....blah then ini (jesus that is) akhliq lakum min al-ttin kahai'atu al-tayri fa-anfakh fihi fayakoon tayran biidhin Allah (more about biidhin allah later)" I'm sure that you can consult your urdu translation or you can consult your Mullah about what this means but what it really says here is that Jesus was making birds out of clay and then he would breath life in such birds.

I'm sure you would agree with me that only a God can breath life and in this case into a clay bird!

So congratulations my dear Sohail: Jesus is God.

The rest of the Aya is about Jesus curing the sick and wa ahya al-mawta (raise the dead) you would agree with me that in this case Jesus was either a good doctor or a God so which one was it?

And now we have the lame and absurd "Jesus must be human because he ate food and was breating air." Again if your Allah was makkar (oh that word again) and lifted Jesus to heaven and put some other man on the cross I would see your allah doing the same and putting a little baby or child or man in Jesus' place when eating or breathing air. I guess Aristotelian logic has always been beyond the Muslim mind.

As for the Biidhin Allah or with Allah's leave, I can very much say that at least Jesus is getting help from the Godhead.

Your Allah? He tells you to "iqtoloo al-mushrikeen" and "fight ahl al-kitab until Islam becomes the supreme religion and I'm only paraphrasing Q9:29, and he also tells you "qatil fi sabeel Allah." Your Allah is asking for help from human beings and has the audacity to ask them to do his messy and dirty work. Why is that my dear Sohail? It seems that Allah is not omnipotent! And why does your allah need your help to spread islam? he can do it and we can all become Muslims, God forbid, It seesm that Your Allah cannot do it so he is not omnipotnet!

Notice that Surat al-3Imran is from the Medina period. More later.

4. Now we go to Q4:157-158 wher your Allah al-makkar (well this is what your allah describes himself) lifted Jesus up to heaven and placed another person in his place. This means that Jesus did not die.

And I'm sure you would agree with me that a being that does not die is a God.

So congratulations my dear Sohail: Jesus is indeed God as per your Allah!

Sura 4 or Surat al-Nisa' is a Medina sura.

But this is not all: your Allah or is it Abul Qasim believes that the Trinity of: Allah, Jesus and Mary is a false Trinity and I do agree with your Allah that it is a false Trinity.

But notice that your Allah is silent about the other Trinity: The Godhead, Jesus and al-Roh al-Qudus or the holy spirit! I only take your allah's silence here as He has no problem with such Trinity. So it seems that the Christian Trinity of: The Godhead, Jesus and al-Roh al-Qudus is fine with your Allah!

So much for the confused and poor Muslim theology.

Now based on the doctrine of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh (abrogation) any dispensation in surat al-Baqara or Surat al-Nisa' or surat al-Imran (all these suras are from the Medina period) will aborgate any similar dispensation is surat Mariam. So the whole thing about Jesus being prophet and all is aborgated and Jesus is indeed Allah, and that your allah has no difficulty with the Trinity of the Godhead, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Congratulations my dear Sohail but it seems that Jesus is your Allah!

So much for Muslim theology.

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