Mr Khaled - Fortunately i am not a victim of ISLAMIC PROPOGANDA AND TAQUIYYA

Submitted by Proud Indian (India), Jul 3, 2008 at 02:11

Thank you Dear Mr Khaled for showing us your " Articulate & well thought out post". Just look at what you write and then decide whether you want us to comment further on your intelligence..

" For the record, we here in the Gulf have MİLLİONS of your indian labourers who work hard "

"your indian workers would stop flooding the streets of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, bringing drugs and prostitution to our country "

Which is it Mr Khaled? do they work hard or do they bring drugs & prostitution in your country? I thought the gulf countries are one of the most strict islamic countries.. Hmm just imagine how much would the consumption of drugs and the need for prostitutes would be if we indians risk thier necks to do business there.. The local arabs must be paying good money iSNT THIS LAUGHABLE?

JUST 1 PARA BEFORE YOU WERE EXTOLLING THE VIRTUES OF HARD WORKING INDIAN LABOURERES AND THEN YOU GO ON AND CHARACTER ASSISINATE THEM!The fACT is Mr Khaled, that the local Arab population care a damn about work.. Thats why oil rich arabs hire us Indians to work .. They know that INDIANS work the hardest. Thats why they are hired by the dozens. The truth is who would want a work force who will take a break 5 times a day , take a full months holiday for fasting , where women wont work , you know what i am talking about here right?

You wrote

"Need İ discuss hindu extemism? Look no further than the Tamil rebels who are devastating Sri Lanka –once a paradise! "

Mr Khaled, Since i am not a Muslim, I have no issues discussing the extremeties of my religion. Unlike Muslims who choose to strike everybody every where.. Tamil Rebels dont target srilankans or sinhalese staying abroad. Unlike muslims who fail to even acknowledge the atrocities of fellow muslims . we had sent a peace keeping force to aid srilanka to wipe out the tamil tigers.. THE DIRECT RESULT WAS DEATH OF AROUND 1100 HUNDRED INDIAN SOLDIERS AND THE PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY RAJIV GANDHI BIENG ASSASINATED ! It is written in our sacred text the Bhagwad Gita instructs us that if your own Kith & Kin stand up for what is wrong and you stand up for what is right, then do not hesitate to raise your sword against them!

yOU WROTE,

"Actually, while indians love to portray their country as some vast, safe, wealthy paradise ---there are in fact HUNDREDS of seperatist rebel groups in your impoverished country. İ believe that most of the terrorist attacks in india are carried out by Maoist rebels, and Sikh seperatists."

Mr Khaled, actually we were a vast safe wealthy paradise you know, thats why your ancestors raided us for 750 years, Please read the glorious conquests of your ancestors where they looted and raided our temples and the holy land. and what hundreds of seperatists are you speaking about? Sikh Seperatism has died down my friend with thier leaders being sheltered by your Pakistani brothers. Yes Maoists have created another hell but thats nothing compared to the bombings we are subjected to by the Islamic terrorists..

you are right you shouldn't be lecturing me about my country , in fact you shouldn't be lecturing at all

yOU MENTIONED "İsn't your President Abul Kalaam a Muslim?.

yes mr khaled, my ex president was a muslim, and i am proud of it! as a suggestion, please read his autobigraphy " Wings of Fire " and let me know which madrassa he went to study, how many times does he recite the quran? how many times does he pray in the day? which mullah was his teacher, who were his inspiration etc

Since you will not read his autobigraphy i will enlighten you to the facts which he has written in his book, His teacher was a hindu brahmin ,He is well versed with quran and he has also learned the Bhagwad Gita by heart. He is not a practicing muslim.. ( Thank god for that otherwise the world would have lost another scientist) . his patriotism is unmatched, i will touch the feet of this great man in respect! ask any of hindu in this country whether they like Mr Abdul Kalam or not and let me know if you find anybody who doesn't!

yOU WROTE : You are the first indian i have ever ‘encountered' who is not proud of india's attempt towards secularism.

Why would i be proud of a simple thing such as being secular? Mr Khaled, we dont feel that being secular should be a matter of pride.. WE FEEL THAT SECULARISM SHOULD BE PRACTICED IN REALITY AND SHOULD NOT BE AN EMPTY WORD LIKE " MODERATE MUSLIMS" AND "PEACEFUL ISLAM" I FEEL PROUD THAT WE HAVE MAINTAINED A SECULAR STATE. MOST OF OUR BELOVED MOVIE ACTORS ARE MUSLIMS. SOME OF OUR NATIONAL TEAM CAPTIANS HAVE BEEN MUSLIMS. SOME OF THE RICHEST BUSINESSMEN IN THE COUNTRY ARE MUSLIMS! INFACT I FEEL THAT YOU ARE SELF GLOATING HERE BY TRYING TO PROJECT YOURSELF AS A MODERATE.. DO YOU THINK THAT ITS A GREAT FEAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED?

You have cleverly diverted the issues of religious global conflicts in to the conflicts of land! your comments on the same were laghuable , not suprising Mr Khaled as i said previously , you cant even acknowledge the fact that your religion is involved in every major conflict in the world.

Muslims Vs Jews ( Middle east )

İt is not a conflict over religion. İt is a conflict over land (israel).

no its not mr khaled, its about who will control the holy land of Jerusalem!

Muslims Vs the Christians ( European Conflicts )

There are no conflicts. But Muslims are a huge minority in much of the EU and there happens to be occasional mutually-shared miscomprehension with which they view one another. Hopefully things change for the better.

OHHH , you mean to say that the london bombings, madrid bombing, glascow airport bombings, SEPT 11 was all a result of miscomprehensions? wow Mr Khaled.. i think we should forgive Hitler for a small miscomprehension he had with the jews right?

Muslims Vs the Hindus ( India )

As for Kashmir –many believe it belongs to Pakistan since it is predominantly Muslim territory, and there are many movements in india for independence from indian occupation. This has nothing to do with İslam.

Is it Mr Khaled? Since Kashmir is a Muslim Territory it should belong to Muslims? is that the justification you want us to give? i dont know how much of your " MANY " are but rest assurred 85% of the country believe that KASHMIR is an intergral part of India.. MR kHALED, IF 300 THOUSAND KASHMIRI HINDUS WERE DRIVEN OUT OF THIER HOMELAND IN 1980S , MUSLIMS WERE BOUND TO BE IN MAJORITY. AND ANYWAY, THE KING OF KAHSMIR , A HINDU HAD FORMALLY SIGNED A TREATY FOR JOINING INDIA. and so where is the dispute? why is this an issue with every population which has a majority of Musilms feel that they own the land? who fans the seperatists movements? Many movements want seperate state for themselves but still want to remain with india..

Muslims Vs the buddhists ( Indonesia, Thailand etc)

Once again –not a religious conflict. İndonesia is majority Muslim while Thailand is not –so these examples are flawed completely.

Muslims Vs Muslims ( The Shias Vs Sunnis, The shias & Sunnis Vs the ahhamedi's, etc)

Yes Shiia-Sunni conflict is not very widespread except in İraq, and occasionally in Lebanon and Pakistan. Very sad and unfortunate indeed. İt is over-hyped a bit by the media –but such conflicts have taken place. İn the end –the Sunnis and the Shiites are brothers till eternity. Once again –it is the fundamentalists who try to incite this sectarian hatred. İt truly disgusts me.

ONCE AGAIN LET ME ASK YOU WHO ARE THESE FUNDAMENTALISTS AND BASED ON WHAT ARE THEY PREACHING THIS SECTARIAN HATRED? ISNT THE CONFLICT THE RESULT OF FLAWS IN THE QURAN ?

Just read your above posts and carefully read the Line " Muslims are in majority " . Isn't it common than when muslims are in majority even you tend to feel that the voilence there is justified.. the truth is Mr Khaled, Violence follows muslims just as shadows follow us.. whether muslims are in majority or muslims are in minority, you tend to impose your way of life on others and demand that the laws of the land be modified to suit your religious beliefs.. This is the reason why muslims and non muslims are at loggerheads..

Mr Khaled, majority of the non muslims do treat incidents of terrorism as terrorism only, thats why you dont see muslims bieng hunted on the streets of london, mumbai, madrid or the places where your brothers have bombed out civilians..

yOU wrote :

Friday prayers are compulsory (depending on how religious the follower is). The İmams only recite verses of the Quran during Friday prayer –not agendas. İn some cases, they use the Mosque loud speakers to politisize –and that is wrong (unless there is a war). İn the case of war when the country is being invaded, resistance is justified in my opinion. But this only seems natural. İf someone invaded my country –İ would definately resist!

Mr Khaled, please tell me which country has invaded pakistan, india, Britain , Netherlands? If you dont have any answer then please also let me know why are the mullahs urging the local population to lend a helping hand for the jehad in palestine, afghanistan, etc? Why do indian mullas / pakistani mullas / british mullas feel the need to call for resistance ?

You want me to admit that İslam is a flawed and violent ideology –and that İ cannot (and will not) do –just to please you ... İ am free to think for myself. You on the other hand, are victim to brainwashing, racism and lies.

No Mr Khaled, i am not a victim of brain washing racism and lies.. You are a victim of an ideology which does not even allow its followers to question the flaws.. you dont even admit that islam needs a relook and why the quran offers so much for the fundamentalists to play with . i dont want you to please me.. I want you to retrospect yourself on why every jehadi, fundmentalist who blows himself up carries your holy book and recites verses of the holy quran in front of the camera before he goes on his holy mission!

Even hitler's nazis believed that they were just.. because of the idoelogy and brainwashing nazi ideology hitler had imbibed in them. No you are not free to think yourself.. your poor defence in the points suggest that you yourself secretly admire what your brothers are doing and you just do what a literate muslim does.. PAINT THE MUSLIMS AS VICTIMS FOR THIER ACTIONS TO BE JUSTIFIED

Thanks & Regards,

Proud Indian,

PS : You even feel that me calling you DEAR KHALED HAS AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE..SEE HOW YOU JUSTIFY WHAT WE SAY THAT MUSLIMS DONT MINGLE & ACCEPT OTHER FAITHS, I KNOW ITS INSTRUCTED IN THE QURAN NOT TO ACCEPT FRIENDSHIP WITH A NON MUSLIM..SO I CAN UNDERSTAND

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